driver scan program as good as Secunia PSI

Please pardon the long post. I've done some looking around and not found a satisfactory answer. A link to a good answer would be a very satisfactory answer!

I am a big fan of Secunia PSI, and I'm looking for a program that does for device drivers (and possibly BIOS and possibly firmware) what Secunia PSI does for software.

I suspect the problem of finding updates for drivers is a lot more complicated because there are three sources for drivers. Note this is specifically for internal devices such as the chipset, audio, and network adapters; it's a bit different for external devices (peripherals) such as printers, scanners, and all-in-ones. (With these, the complication is that you need to decide if you want the big software packages -- suites -- or just the drivers. But that's another topic.) So, for internal devices, the driver sources are:
The original manufacturer of the device (such as Intel, NVidia, or RealTek).The computer manufacturer (such as Dell or Acer) or motherboard manufacturer (such as Asus), who buys the device from the device manufacturer and might tailor the driver.Driver web sites (like and I don't trust I used them a while ago and abandoned them. And their awards are all from 2004 or earlier (
Also, driver version numbers are sometimes illogical -- I've seen missing numbers or numbers concatenated in device manager.

I've seen the following driver update tools:

Driver Detective (plenty of negative reviews at,.html AND at
RadarSync (Cnet pans it: AND I had bad luck with it)
PC PitStop's Driver Alert ( which I have tried a year ago and abandoned. Many user reviews at say it's fine but the editor's review points out that you need to pay for updates and it's not always correct. They say it's better to check it's work rather than trust it (
I believe that right-clicking on devices in device manager and choosing "Update Driver" merely invokes Windows Update for that particular driver, whereas going to Windows Update (or Microsoft Update) and selecting Custom (I believe this is different in Vista and 7) scans your entire system for any driver updates known by Windows Update. More up-to-date drivers might be available at the computer manufacturer's support web site but in general you have to manually identify the version number currently installed on your system (using device manager, one by one). Computer manufacturers such as IBM and HP used to have online tools using activex controls -- or update programs installed on the system -- that would identify driver updates. I have seen the update programs state that there were no updates available when I could manually identify updated drivers on manufacturer support web sites.

So, it's a mess, and I bet that one of the high-value skills of experienced computer techs/repair shops is the depth of experience in doing driver updates, particularly if they concentrate on particular manufacturers or product lines.

Bob Stromberg (who should be outside enjoying the cool of the evening, taking a walk)
Saratoga Springs and Salem, NY

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In a previous Good Boot I recommended Secunia PSI to XP and Vista users, but with so many upgrading to Windows 7, I want to recommend it again.


Under XP I happily used Secunia PSI to check for patches and every so often, an alert popped up to warn me something needed patching. Fine - except for an occasional false positive.

When I upgraded to Windows 7 Home Premium, I followed best practice and (unlike my XP setup which just had 1 admin user), set up 2 users on Win7:- one admin user for restricted, occasional use; one non-admin user for daily use. I installed Secunia PSI again to check for necessary patches and set it to "Start PSI on boot". However, when I log in with my normal user, Secunia PSI is not running. I want PSI to run no matter which user I've logged on with.

If I log in on the admin user, PSI starts and is visible. If I log in on the non-admin user, PSI does not start and is not visible. I have NOT suppressed the PSI notifications in the System Tray.

When I check in Task Scheduler, the Secunia PSI Logon task security options say
- Use the admin user account.
- run only when that user is logged on
The trigger for this task is "At log on of any user".

I'm no expert on this, but the trigger and the security options seem to make no sense in combination. As a result, PSI does not run most of the time - which isn't much use for getting notifications - and possibly suppresses the auto full scan as well (not sure).

Someone on the Secunia forum said that Secunia PSI needs to run as an admin user and suggested I instead sign up for mail notifications from them and manually run PSI when something _might_ affect my set-up. This seems to defeat the whole point of an automatic scan and tailored notification.

Anyone know if it's possible to make Secunia PSI run in a useful manner - i.e. automatically, on logon of any user?


Does anyone know of a driver installation program compatable with Win 7 64bit machine. I need safe, reliable program from company with a good track record. Want it to install as well as find. Thank You

After refusing to load properly for about a week, Secunia PSI now has another problem: I have several programs that PSI brings to my attention that are out of date (end of life) but I still want to use them, so I right-click on the program icons and click on "Ignore updates to this program". This does no good. PSI keeps putting them back immediately and won't ignore them. So I can never get a 100% score! What's going on here, Seconia. A really good program is going down hill fast.


Secunia PSI has flagged Acrobat Standard 9 (actually it's version 9.5.4) as needing updating. Acrobat just gives me a message that no update is available, but Secunia tells me "This program is no longer supported by the supplier." It would be a $139 upgrade for a program that already gives me all the functionality I need in terms of my day to day work.

So my question is whether Acrobat might actually be a security risk, as I understand an out of date free Adobe Reader would be, or whether I can safely tell Secunia to ignore Acrobat Standard.

I decided to try this out (Thanks WOPR) and while I really like it I am frustrated by the fact that (Free Version) it won't let me set the drives to scan prior to running the scan. I had to hover over each item and those that were on drive H I had to tell it to ignore. Drive H contains a copy (disk images in some cases) of all software that is on my laptop, a back up of my hard drive, several not often used programs, and it is external.
I was amazed to see (and somewhat embarrassed) the number of unsecured programs I had. Once I updated them all, and ignored those on Drive H I was done.
Great Program to have: Secunia

On one of my machines (HP laptop, Win7, SP1) Secunia PSI insists my Adobe reader 9xx and Shockwave 10 xx are end of the line and need manual patching. Both have been updated with the installation process showing "previous versions deleted". Neither of these old programs show on the hard drive, or via Control Panel uninstall.

Have rebooted twice and still no update in Secunia. What to do? Probably should go to their forum, but I like here first.


Is anyone else having problems with the latest version of Secunia PSI. I don't know if this is a Beta version but compared to the previous version it's a nightmare,. I had the old version on both my Desktop (custom made) and Vaio laptop using XP Home and Professional respectively for many years without a problem.

I have had problems with it booting up & asking for a scan. The old version used to boot up without this. When initially booting up and scanning it took ages. The automatic update is a nightmare. I unticked this option after removing PSI & reinstalling but this made no difference. I have a large number of folders & files but the old version gave no problems with scanning these. It seems Secunia has fallen into the Microsoft trap of issuing a new version for the sake of it without any improvement.

There is a new version of Secunia PSI available.

If you aren't familiar with it, this free product monitors software on your PC and reports any missing security patches or known security vulnerabilities. It does a great job of monitoring all those third party products that most of us forget to update.

Do others using Vista SP2 experience very slow startup when Secunia PSI software is installed? The Secunia community site has limited comment apart from programmes being slow to load.
CYa Ron

The thread entitled Secunia PSI (PC3)
can now be found here.
Reason: This is a security application.

Hi Loungers,

Is your version of Java vurnerable to attack ? The only way I know is to look in Secunia PSI, 'Secure Browsing' to see if your browsers are safe.

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Please advise and help. Anyone having problems opening Secunia PSI free version. Suddenly cannot open. Have uninstalled and reinstalled but to no
avail. Just hangs for hours.

WS introduced me to Secunia PSI 2.0, which proved to be a favorite free download for my WinXP-sp3. After recently installing their newest version 3.0, I stared in wonderment and tried to understand why the upgrade. After much staring/bewilderment, visited their User's forum and learned I was not alone. Not by a long shot.

Just wondering if WS (my WinPC tech guru) has viewed same and has any comments/advice?

I have used Roboform Pro for yrs an now looking for a free program as good.I cant afford to keep paying an paying.Any suggestions?

Living with Microsoft Windows 7 for the next several years - Ubuntu Forums

I recently purchased a brand new System76 Lemur Ultra:

[SOLVED] March 2012 System76 Lemur Ultra laptop - Ubuntu Forums

I plan to take my Educational Testing Service's Graduate Record Examination by September 30th, 2012. I plan to submit my completed graduate application to the Masters of Arts in English with Writing Studies concentration degree program at Montclair State University in Upper Montclair, New Jersey 07043 by September 30th, 2012. I expect to be accepted by the end of 2012. They have a rolling admissions deadline and it takes them 4 - 6 weeks to process graduate applications.

Montclair State University will only offer support for PCs running Microsoft Windows 7 32 and 64 bit Home Premium, Professional, Ultimate, and Enterprise Editions along with Apple Macintosh iMacs, Mac Pros, MacBook Airs and MacBook Pros running OS X Snow Leopard and Lion 64 bit. They require the Bradford Dissolvable Agent to be downloaded and run as a part of their device registration process before new faculty, staff, and students can connect their devices to their Ethernet or 802.11 B/G/N networks. This checks for the presence of malware and it checks to ensure that an approved anti-malware software security application is installed prior to granting full access to their network.

I expect to graduate with my degree by December 31st, 2015. I plan to move on campus and attend my first January 2013 spring semester.

To be quite honest and truthful with you, I already dislike Microsoft Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate Edtion Service Pack 1. I purchased and installed it in an Oracle VM Virtualbox 64 bit guest virtual machine. It constantly gives me problems. Boot ups, restarts, and shut downs constantly don't work properly or they take too long especially when there is an update that needs to be applied. This causes Microsoft Windows 7 64 bit to just sit there and do nothing more often than not. The other problem is that Microsoft Windows 7 64 bit is slow even on my brand new System76 Lemur Ultra laptop PC. Downloading, installing, applying updates takes the longest period of time and it often winds up in an unresponsive state. I have to forcibly turn off the guest virtual machine pretty often. Another major source of problems are the 0 day vulnerabilities and exploit attack vectors. Last month, it was the Microsoft XML vulnerability. This month, it is the Microsoft sidebar and gadgets vulnerability. Who knows what next month will bring? I do not want to re-install Microsoft Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1 from scratch at least every six months to keep it fresh and running in tip top shape either. In fact, I plan to use Ubuntu and LibreOffice Writer and Impress along with Google Chrome to do the majority of my academic and scholarly research work. I know that there will be times when I need to run Microsoft Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1 while I am living and studying on campus at Montclair State University, but I will try to minimize those occasions as much as possible.

Montclair State University has no official plans to offer help and support for Microsoft Windows 8 when it will be launched sometime in late October 2012 worldwide. So, I am stuck with Microsoft Windows 7 64 bit for the next three and a half years from today.

What tips and tricks should I make as habits to keep Windows 7 64 bit running in good shape?

I have Symantec Norton 360 version 6, Macecraft Software jv16 PowerTools 2012, ReviverSoft Driver Reviver 2.1, Piriform CCleaner, Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, Super Anti-Spyware Professional, WinPatrol Plus, QFX Software KeyScrambler Premium, VS Group Revo Uninstaller Professional, File Hippo, Secunia PSI version 3.0, and Microsoft Office 2010 Professional Plus 32 bit Service Pack 1 along with other software applications. I try to check for device driver updates once per week using ReviverSoft Driver Reviver 2.1. I run Piriform's CCleaner daily. I download updates for Symantec Norton 360 version 6, Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware, and Super Anti-Spyware Professional every day. I try to do anti-malware deep scans on Sundays on a regular basis. I check FileHippo and Secunia PSI version 3.0 for third-party software updates daily. I run jv16 PowerTools 2012 at least once per day to check for registry errors and I fix them along with making backups of my registry.

What else should I be doing?

I also have Acronis TrueHome Image 2012 with the Plus Pack. I have not used it yet to make any disk images or data backups since I use CrashPlan+ home unlimited plan to backup my /home folder in Ubuntu. This includes my Oracle VM Virtualbox folder and files. I also make a copy of this folder to my Kingston DataTraveler HyperX 128 GB USB 3.0 thumb drive on Microsoft Patch Tuesdays every month to ensure that I have a known good copy of my Microsoft Windows 7 64 bit guest virtual machine.

It is a lot of work to keep Microsoft Windows 7 64 bit in good working order. Most of the time, I leave the guest virtual machine turned off during the week except on Sundays when I have to perform updates and maintenance.

How do you guys maintain your Microsoft Windows operating system? What tips and tricks do you do to keep it running in good shape so as to avoid having to re-install it every six months?

Ubuntu is so much easier and simpler. There are far fewer things that can go horribly wrong with Ubuntu especially if you stick pretty closely to the default settings and configuration. Ubuntu gives me a lot less stress and headaches now that I purchased my System76 Lemur Ultra laptop PC. Almost everything works right out of the box with little fuss. It also consumes far fewer hardware resources especially if you switch to XFCE or LXDE desktop environments.

I am thinking and I am hoping that I can get away with using Ubuntu at Montclair State University on a daily basis. I am in the College of Humanities and Social Sciences and I am in the Graduate English Department. The Graduate Advisor told me that the university is pretty agnostic when it comes to hardware and software requirements for my degree program. The only exception is the Bradford Dissolvable Agent requirement.

How many Ubuntu Forums members here completed either an undergraduate or graduate degree using Ubuntu? How did you do it?

Finally, I think that I am going to stick with Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit Long Term Support. The System76 forums usually provide up to date version stickies to help customers upgrade to future Ubuntu versions. I have found that something will almost always break or fail to work properly when users perform an operating system upgrade to a newer version. My System76 Lemur Ultra has got to keep working similar to a production environment every single day. I have two years of warranty and technical support from System76, but I do not plan to utilize that service very often because I plan to stick with Ubuntu 12.04 64 bit LTS until April 2014. In the past, I have found Ubuntu 10.04 64 bit LTS to be quite stable and reliable, but Ubuntu 10.10, 11.04, and 11.10 64 bit had teething issues especially as Canonical transitioned to the Unity desktop environment and they made it the default choice. Ubuntu 11.10 64 bit was particularly slow and it had a couple of known issues for Ubuntu users that upgraded from 11.04 64 bit. I don't want to repeat all of that nonsense with future non LTS releases while I am living and studying on campus.

Montclair State University has a software library for its faculty, staff, and students. Once I get accepted and I am assigned my own NetID credentials, I will check it out. For the most part, I already purchased the Microsoft Windows 7 software applications that I will need for school work. The Graduate English Department does not explicitly require specific hardware or software requirements on their home page. I am hoping that I really won't need to use Microsoft Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1 that much at all.

Microsoft Windows and Office demand so many updates and high maintenance. I don't have the desire to do the work every single day nor do I have the time. I already diverted at least one week away from studying for my GRE just to focus on Windows and Office. Fortunately, I have over two and a half months to buckle down and really study hard for my GREs by September 30th, 2012. Most of my work is done by now.

I copied my original post from Ubuntu Forums. I am an Ubuntu user and I have a System76 Lemur Ultra laptop PC.

What do I need to do to maintain Microsoft Windows 7 64 bit Ultimate Edition Service Pack 1 beyond what I am already doing?

These are the software applications that I purchased to maintain and secure Windows 7:

Registry Cleaner, Optimize Windows with our System Utilities | Macecraft Software
Endpoint, Cloud, Mobile & Virtual Security Solutions | Symantec
Malwarebytes : Free anti-malware, anti-virus and spyware removal download
BillP Studios - WinPatrol 2012 | Remove Malware | Remove Spyware - AntiMalware, AntiSpyware, AntiAdware!
Backup software for data backup and disaster recovery in Windows and Linux - Acronis
QFX Software - Anti-Keylogging Software and More
Revo Uninstaller Pro - Uninstall Software, Remove Programs easily, Forced Uninstall
ReviverSoft | Software and Tips to Make Your PC Run Like New
Piriform - Download CCleaner, Defraggler, Recuva, Speccy - Millions of users worldwide!

I think that I have all of the bases covered, but I am looking for more tips and tricks to keep Windows 7 running in tip top condition so that I don't have to re-install it every six months.

What else should I consider doing?

I use an HTO Striker 7.1 soundcard.. downloaded their official x64 W7 drivers..

Upon them being installed, I can suddenly no longer run a program without right clicking and running as an administrator.

What could be the problem?

Hello and greetings from the great free state of Tennessee,
I use "Secunia PSI (RC3)" for keeping up with the latest software on my "PC" But as i am only a "personal use" computer user i don't have the time to keep after all the other updates, (drivers, firmware, new bios, etc). My question is : Does any one know of, or have any experience using a "driver updater programs"? I know that there are several "out there" some free and some for $pay$. I wouldn't mind purchasing the software, if any one has any recommendations i would appreciate your input. Regards Plain Fred

Was unsure which forum to post this in but as I run Win 7 I thought this would be a start. Is anyone running Secunia (PSI) with Win 7? Any problems with the download? Do you recommend it? Sounds good but thought I would see what other users think before I download.

Thank You