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I'm a 7 newbie. I wish to setup a Standard user account without password for visitors. I will employ parental controls to limit access to most programs. How do I edit the Start menu of the newly created Standard user account so that the restricted programs are not visible? At the moment, the Start menu in Standard user account is the same as in Administrator account. Thanks.

When I first started using Windows, the advice was to use a Restricted User account for most purposes, and only use a password protected Administrator account when installing or un-installing software or making configuration changes, and this I have done using Windows ME and then Windows XP.
However, my current IT Consultant seems surprised that I did this.
I have also found problems with many utilities programs such as those that remove temporary files and internet caches, that will not run at all if they do not have Administrator rights, but only work on the files of the User who is logged in.
I recently found that I had by mistake been using a non-password protected Administrator account for general browsing under Windows XP for several weeks (having changed the rights to run a utility, and forgotten to switch it back), but AVG had not been reporting any malware or other problems. I've had a new machine running Windows 7 for about a month, and have only used an Administrator account, as that is the way my Consultant set it up, and Kaspersky doesn't seem to have found any problems.
Do other members use Restricted/Standard User accounts, and do you consider they are necessary with a hardware firewall in the router and a good internet security suite?

I have one administrative account and two standard user accounts and one guest account my wife is one of the standard accounts. When she tried to switch user from my account on the switch user screen only my account icon was there and one that said “Other user” icon is blank and when clicked on it asks for a user name and a password but does not open any user account. How do I get the icons for the users on this computer to show back on the change user screen? When I look in control panel (or the directory Users) all the accounts are there, even one I did not create HomeGroupUser$. I can not switch to other user using that option it just returns me back to the switch user screen the administrative acount is the only one we can use and I tried adding a new account and it would not show on the switch screen either.
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James Robertson

HI - I'm building a W7 PRo PC for a local club and want to lock down the PC. I have setup an Admin account, and set the main user account as a Standard account.

I also want them to be able to use W7 Backup/Restore to backup the Standard Users "My Documents" folder to memory stick on a weekly basis. However, Backup/Resore will only run:

1. From the Administrator account , or

2. When executed from the Standard account it requests the administrator Password.

So in other words, it appears that for a Standard user to run a backup they need Admin rights? Kind of defeats the purpose of having a Standard account in this scenario.

Is there any way to confer specific "rights" to a User account or Profile to access/execute specific programs? In this case allow a Standard User account the normal access, plus Backup/Restore (only) with conferred Admin rights?

Cheers ... Rick

Hi everyone!

I have a problem that’s making me want to pull my hair out, sorry if there is already a topic on this as the search function on this site would not work (database error) and Google returned nothing specific.

I recently got a new PC with Windows 7, which is turning out to be a bit of a nightmare coming from Win XP.

I want to put 3 users onto this system and have all their user folders private from each other, BUT I have moved the "My Documents", "My videos", "My Picture" est. from there original location to the second partition.
So instead of

C:UsersUser NameDocuments
It’s now
D:UsersUser NameDocuments

I did this by right clicking on the folders and choosing the Location Tab under Preferences.

So now, when I set up the three users as standard they cannot access each others User document on the C: drive but can access there folders on the D: drive. How do I also make these folders private?

Another issue I have is that under a "standard" account you seem extremely limited to what you can do. I couldn’t even delete any desktop shortcuts, and it didn’t even ask for an administrator password it just said "you need promisions from SYSTEM" or "you need promisions from ADMINSTRATOR?"

I've read allot of people suggest that everyone who uses the computer should use a "standard" account and the admin account should not be used regularly, but if I can't even delete the desktop shortcuts as a "standard" user how is this supposed to work?
Any help would be greatly, greatly appreciated!

I'm running Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit). When I installed it on my new home-built PC, I entered the account name 'Admin' when prompted. This creates the default administrator account. I subsequently created two standard user accounts for me and my wife. However, I have since had problems with some software not installing properly for use with the standard user accounts, and was forced to change my standard user account into an administrator type.

That left me with two administrator accounts, Admin and mine. So I took the decision to delete the original Admin account. This has all worked fine, except I have been left with an annoying couple of folders associated with the Admin account that I can't remove. They are C:/users/Admin/AppData and both in Local and Roaming there are folders relating to Microsoft/Windows which I can't remove (it says I have insufficient privelege, or that they're part of a share.)

Any thoughts on how I clear out all remnants of this Admin account to leave my system clean with just the two account, mine (administrator) and my wife's?

I installed Windows 7 on my home desktop with an administrative account for myself, and standard user accounts for my wife and children. However, if I install anything, shortcuts are placed on all users' desktops. Then, my wife and daughters each need me to enter my password when they are deleting the icon from their individual user's desktop. I am kind of surprised that standard users don't have access to manage their own desktop icons. Is there any way to make this possible?

1. How do I disable the command prompt for a standard user account on my computer?
2. Can my geeky teenager get around Windows7 parental controls by using the command prompt from his standard account on my computer?

As far as I can tell, the only difference between a standard user account and an administrator account (the regular admin account, not the hidden admin account) is that when it is necessary to elevate the rights for the task at hand, the standard account needs to input an admin username and password, while the regular admin account only needs to click Continue in the UAC dialog.

Is this the only difference, or are there any other differences? It seems they both get the same number of prompts for elevation of rights, for the same tasks. Am I missing something here?


I want to set up one or more standard user accounts such that in each case the home screen which appears upon bootup will look and act exactly like it does when I boot up using my current administrator account. How is the easiest way to do this?

Grover Hughes

I'm using Windows 7 64-bit Home Premium

As required to use administrator privilege from standard user account, enter said password for the Admin account; UAC doesn't launch the program it just stalls or leaves the Start menu unusable.

I have to use the windows run prompt to logoff, other operations work just fine.

I'm running Home Premium 64 on a desktop and laptop, within a workgroup (not homegroup). When I try to lower my standard user account's UAC settings, it prompts for an administrative account and password, which I provide. After lowering, but not turning off, the UAC level, I get the error message "You must be logged on to this computer as an administrator to select this setting" (see figure). When I logoff standard and logon as an administrator (with either my own or the System account) I cannot go to Control Panel|Users|Manage other Accounts|standard user account and find any option to change its UAC settings. Any changes I make within either admin account apply only to admin accounts, not standard accounts.

Why does Win 7 prompt me for admin elevation and then tell me I have to be logged on as an admin, and then when I do so, provide no way of changing my standard user account?

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Hi All,

I'm looking for some advice on troubleshooting the following issue!

To explain, Windows 8 Pro (X64) was installed by way of a clean install utilising audit mode to configure the User Profile folder location to a new partition on a secondary drive (D:Users). The 'main' user profile (the one with the issue) was then further configured using the profile list keys within registry to place the 'Main' at the root of D: (e.g. "D:Main") a location used since the release of Windows XP. Individual folders within this profile have been further customized using the 'location' tab (e.g. "D:MainFiling CabinetMain Documents" etc.) though this is probably not relevant!

Additionally, directory junctions have been created (mklink /j) in respect of D:Main with D:Users........and although probably not necessary D:Main with C:Users

The current situation can be summarised as follows:

1. All user accounts are assigned 'administrator' privileges

2. User profiles created under the D: partition (e.g. "D:UsersSecondary" etc.) function normally with Store sign in and working Modern (Metro) Apps

3. The "D:Main" profile functions correctly except for Store sign in and functioning Modern (Metro) Apps.

4. Attempts to sign in to the store using an MS account fails with a self returning sign in loop.

5. Attempts to bypass and download (free) Apps continually fail with the message "Something Happened and this app couldn't be installed").

6. Attempts to use any metro app results in a return loop back to the tile icon from full screen icon version without opening the app.

Can any wiser heads point out what I might have overlooked and suggest how to resolve this whilst preserving the cherished user as the "D:" root??

Many thanks in advance,

PC Pilot

Another new Windows 8 feature was revealed yesterday, likely as a result of “playing around” with the leaked Windows 8 Milestone release. Roaming options are integrated into the operating system, which apparently are only available for users who have linked the operating system to an online account. It is very likely that Windows Live will be used for that purpose by Microsoft. This plays well into the rumor that users may use email addresses to log into the operating system.

The Roaming Options configuration page is a subpage of the User Accounts control panel applet in Windows 8. It reads:

When you use your connected password to log on to different computers and devices, the personal settings you care about will travel with you and automatically be available”

Here is the data that gets synced:
Language Settings
Application Settings
Windows Settings

This basically means that you can use your desktop backgrounds, configurations and preferences when you log on to other Windows 8 systems that have the roaming options enabled.

Network options at the bottom indicate that roaming can be disabled on paid networks and low bandwidth networks. It will be interesting to see how Microsoft manages to distinguish those from standard connections.

Cloud syncing is a big usability improvement, especially for users who work on multiple Windows boxes, and users who sometimes work on computer systems that are not their own. Especially the option to sync the language settings could be interesting for people who travel a lot.

More Windows 8 User Account Roaming, Cloud Authentication Revealed

I have just installed Vista. I have a standard and an admin account, For some reason or the other when i login with the standard user account i see the admin user logged in and all the processes running by him and it doesnt show the standard user logged. when i log in with the admin account I see the standard user logged in with all the processes running by him and i dont see the admin user logged in, What is this issue and how i can i fix it..???

I am/have tried to create a new user account, specifically to take the place of a suspected corrupt user account (per MS Moderator posts re Excel not responding repeatedly when copying). I have looked around the web, MS support sites, and read posts all over a couple of forums and am trying to get things straight.

Below I describe the nature of my need, but first can you confirm the following?:

A) a person should have at least two UA's on their computer, one standard, to be used regularly, and an admin for admin purposes

B) in order to create a new UA and copy any part of the old UA to the new one, one must create a third UA, as an admin, so you can use it to accomplish working with both accounts

MS has a web page entitled "Fix a corrupted user profile" at Fix a corrupted user profile
While the document pertained to Vista, recent posts from users with W7 have received responses from MS moderators with instructions to access this webpage to fix a corrupted UA. Also within W7's help, these same instructions come up. When I followed the instructions, a number of issues came up and recently a MS Moderator told me not to do the following from the instructions, despite previous posts to the contrary.

In essence, MS instructs you to copy the contents of C:/Users/CorruptAcct to C:/Users/NewAcct, but to exclude all ntuser files from the copy.

Questions to Resolve Problem and Finally Get Some Clarity!!
1) I can't know what part of the CorruptAcct is corrupt, so why would I copy anything over?

2) When you do follow the copying instructions, not everything copies over, e.g. AppData. From my searches, this is to be expected. What other parts of the CorruptAcct or just an OldAcct users' file should be expected to not copy over? And why?

3) What does this (starting with a brand new or incompletely copied over UA) mean in terms of what will change about your computer and what you will have to do to "rebuild" the computer the way you had it or on your other account? What kinds of things will you have to re-download?

4) So isn't there, shouldn't there be a way to share desktop, start menu, taskbar, and other applications between users if keeping both UAs (not deleting a corrupt UA). How do you do this? I know there is a shared users folder, but am unsure re copying, from where, junctions, if they are even related to the Doc&Settings/Users--Shared connection, and how to identify individual files to share, such as a setting or icon file.

5) What is the difference between a user account and a user profile? And is any difference related to creating new accounts just so have another or to replace a corrupt account? Maybe related to copying apps, settings?

With answers to these questions, I will be able to finish the task of no longer maintaining only one account on my computer, having this account be an admin account, create a new account, designated as standard, to be used everyday, and have an admin account, also newly created

I pretty much have the know-how to do whatever needs to be done, but I need to know if any part of corrupted can be copied, and if so, how -- and -- how share rebuilt (assuming will have to) desktop, prior computer configurations, etc. between the two new users I will have.

I really want to settle this issue! After looking for so long for clarity, I want to know what I'm asking simply because now I both have to know! and I need some help to put this to rest!

Any input would be greatly, greatly appreciated.

Sorry, haven't posted specs: HP Pavilion, W7 Home Premium, x64

I have a problem with my Administrator Accounts in that I cannot access the below although I CAN access them from a Standard User Account???

1 When I try to start Windows Update (START / ALL PROGRAMS / WINDOWS UPDATE)
I get the following: Application not found

2 When I wish to access ANYTHING from the Control Panel (START / CONTROL PANEL / anything in Control Panel) or try to access START / DEVICES AND PRINTERS I get the following: a long string of numbers

3 When I try to get to Default Programs (START / DEFAULT PROGRAMS) I get the following: another long string of numbers.

Did try to attach screen shots but didn't work.

I can however access everything from a STANDARD USER account????

I am running Windows 7 Ultimate N

I would appreciate any assistance as the only assistance on the web is of no use as I have tried the limited suggestions without success and am totally at a loss now!


I have set up several user accounts in our new family Windows 7 PC. My own account being the admin one.

Problem is other standard uses can’t see or use any of the programs I installed such as MS Office, Itunes, etc, etc. They are not in the program list or start menu in their standard accounts.

I think I read somewhere that when installing programs you have to set it to all users, but I did not get this option when installing MS Office or others.

Any help, guidance about how I could have standard users access the programs I install, would be really appreciated.

Dear All,

I was login with a administrator privilege user. Last night I removed that user from administrators group and assign a password to administrator thinking that I should be able to login as Administrator.

To my surprise I cant login as administrator nor I'm able to raise my standard user to administrator user. When I googled I came to know we have to enable Administrator account first. I tried enabling the account using DOS command, but to my surprise I'm getting "Access Denied" error.

Now I don't know how can I go back to my previous user with admin rights or login as Local Administrator. It would be great if someone solve this issue.

Many Thanks,

Having a bit of a problem here. I used the Offline NT registry editor at Offline NT Password & Registry Editor to elevate a normal user account to admin, and now I cannot change it from admin to normal user.
I inputted the following cmds in command line:
net localgroup administrators CompAdmin /delete
And I got sys error 1377 that says CompAdmin is not a member of the group. Then I input net localgroup administrators CompAdmin /add and it says the account is already a member of the group..what can I do? I cannot reinstall my OS or recreate another account..

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