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I have been experimenting with my Netbook for a week. I have been trying out 5 different brands of Linux installed alongside my Windows 7. Ubuntu Netbook,Kubuntu Netbook,Xubuntu,Linux Mint and jolicoud. As I could not install Ubuntu,Kubuntu and Xubuntu with Wubi installer,I installed them on Virtual Clone Drive which I found out how to do from the How-To Geek website. I also installed Linux Mint this way-Virtual Clone Drive as well. But Jolicloud Express was installed on my hard disk C drive without clone drive with the Windows installer. Here is how I did.

Ubuntu-well first of all I could not connect to the Internet wireless broadband because it never detected it -same problem with Kubunt,Xubuntu and Linux Mint. Except that in Linux Mint I did in the end, but I had to plug my cable in before it found my Wifi but all the others did not find it.

Ubuntu,kubuntu, Xubuntu- I could only use wired connection because they never detected my wirless network and would not let me download the drivers.So these 3 brands of Linux were not usable.

Linux Mint-I found having to enter my password and user name most irritating every time I booted my computer and I had to enter my password every time I did some thing like install new packages or change the settings. There was no way to disable this like there is on Windows.

Jolicloud-was the only one who found my Wifi connections right away and connected me without any problems, and I did manage to disable having to enter my password. Every time I booted my computer by ticking enable automatic log in. But I still had to enter my password every time I installed packages or changed settings. And when I tried to change this in command prompt.I found I could not install software unless I logged into the root and user account settings-even more irritating and annoying.

Also in Linux you are supposed to be able to download and install software from the Internet. But I found I could not install anything. Mozilla Flock web browser would only install as a file which I had to download EVERY time I wanted to use it. I could not get it to install the way it should as a web browser like it does in Windows. Even though I installed the Linux version. In fact in Linux you can only install the web browsers and software that are in the packages, nothing else.

Also in Jolicloud a lot of the web browsers I did install from the packages did not work. Aorora browser would not let me sign into my Google account and no matter what I did I could not fix this problem. But the Windows version of Aorora browser is working normally and I can sign into Google and my other accounts. In jolicloud Midori browser crashed, other web browsers were out of date-Firefox 3.6.3 for instance should have been updated to 3.6.12 the current version. Other web browsers did not work and Dillo and Epiphany did not because they are now discontinued.

But on all of the Linux brands I tried, all of the web browsers were out of date and as I could not install anything from the Internet I could not update them. Also Jolicoud took up a lot of space on my hard drive.

So windows users who are thinking of replacing you operating system with Linux,my advice is don't.

Because I installed all of the Linux brands alongside Windows in removable installation,I was able to uninstall them all in Windows uninstall programs. But had I had been stupid enough to go for full installation and replaced Linux with Windows,then I would have been stuck. With an operating system that does not work and is not in the least bit user friendly.And installation alongside Windows is not without it's risks. As I have read that if things go wrong, Windows can be wiped from the boot system,leaving only Ubuntu or Linux on the computer. And if you only have a Netbook like I did,how do you get Windows back? Netbooks do not have a CD drive. True,you can plug a CD drive into the USB socket via extension lead and the other end to the CD drive and run it that way. But you still need to get the Windows CD if you have not backed up your Windows and files to a CD.So it is risky to install another operating system alongside windows.

Windows IS very user friendly. YOU control how you use it and how it is run. You do not have to have any log on password or any security at all unless you want it. YOU choose what software you want and it is quick and easy to install. And with over a thousand web browsers and software compatible with Windows there is plenty of choice. Some people install Jolicloud because of the different web apps. and video chat messengers,but you can get all of these on Windows.

And Windows search with it's tutorials and help guide about how to use and fix your computer,is an asset to Windows users. And Windows will troubleshoot any software that is not working and fix it by automatically.And you can download additional fix it tools from the Microsoft website and they have a security tool now that you can scan your computer with. Well,you do not get anything like that with Linux.

Windows is used by all offices and public computers,such as Internet cafes, libraries and homes. While Linux is not so well known and used. But if it were the other way round and all computers were made in Linux,nobody would use a computer. Linux is definitely not user friendly,difficult to use and you do not control your computer,it does. As you cannot do the things that you want such as remove password,install software from the Internet and other things that you can do in Windows.

Windows is user friendly especially Windows 7 but so are the other versions of Windows,Windows XP,Windows Vista,but Windows 7,the most. Windows 7 does have clear settings listed in the control panel index, making it easy for any beginner to use.

But there is NO WAY Linux can ever rival or replace Windows,unless it changes and becomes more user friendly and allows users more control in settings. Maybe linux should take a tip from windows. As Windows has deficiently got it right but Linux has got it wrong.

And I have customised my Windows 7 to make it the way I want it and I have even successfully removed Internet Explorer browser. But my advice is to stay with Windows. You are much better off. Andrea Borman.

Windows 8 released to manufacturing earlier in this month (wow, it seems longer ago) and the Enterprise version is available for download as a 90-day trial directly from Microsoft. If you want to test the new operating system before the October 26 public release you can download and install the ISO. Virtual machine is another option, and one less likely to disturb your workflow or upset the ...

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i have win7 installed, and i want to install a secondery XP operating system on another partition, how do i make this installation so at the end i'll have the boot menu to choose from?
Anyone operating a server on any scale should want a digital certificate to encrypt data between clients and services, whether for personal, office, or public use. Ars tells you how to obtain and install one, for free.
Anyone operating a server on any scale should want a digital certificate to encrypt data between clients and services, whether for personal, office, or public use. That's a broad statement, but it holds true no matter how you slice it.
With so many people accessing networks over WiFi or other untrusted networks for an increasing number of different kinds of services—calendars, contacts, Webmail, email, and so on—encryption is a must, whether via a VPN or by securing services one by one. While I recommend VPNs, they aren't always the practical, affordable, or correct solution. For remote email access, SSL/TLS is simpler and more straightforward, and you don't have to compromise on protection in the process.
There can be something technically imposing about getting and installing a digital certificate, even though it has a high utility value, so I'm here to make it easier by breaking it down into steps that someone without encryption and command-line knowledge should be able to work with.
I'll start with an explanation of how digital certificates create encrypted sessions. Then I'll describe how to get a free certificate from StartCom as a simple case, before giving a few examples of how to install your certificates.
Secret handshakes

A digital certificate comes in the form of server-side TLS certificate. TLS stands for transport layer security, and in common use it's a method of combining the advantages of public-key cryptography, external third-party (out-of-band) validation, and per-session encryption.
(TLS is the modern name for SSL, the preceding standard. This method is sometimes called SSL/TLS to signal to people who know the older name that it's the same thing; here, let's just call it TLS.)
Public-key cryptography lets one party send information to another, hidden by a public key that can be freely distributed. The receiving party has a private key which is kept strictly secret, and which is the only component which may extract the original message from the public-key-encrypted payload.
Public keys are unwieldy for encrypting long strings of text and for fast encryption of streams of data, such as files being transferred via email or website transactions. Philip Zimmermann created PGP in 1991 as a way around this. The public key transaction is used to exchange a strong session key that's symmetric: both parties use the same key to encrypt and decrypt data. The key is passed in perfect security via the public-key transaction, making the process impenetrable to sniffers and "man in the middle" attacks.
Certificates can be generated for domain names and other data by pretty much anyone; the party generating the certificate doesn't have to be the legitimate owner of the domain or data. So, just as with PGP and the open-source GPG alternative (and SSH and many other similar methods), you need an out-of-band method to validate that party issuing the certificate is really who they say they are.
That's where certificate authorities (CAs) come in. A CA is a group that provides some validation, from cursory to extensive (in the case of Extended Validation certificates), that the party that signed up for a certificate for a given domain name is approximately that entity.
When you connect via a browser to a secure website, for instance, the browser does some handshaking with the server, receives a certificate which contains a public key and some other fielded data, and then turns to a CA to confirm that the certificate is valid.
CAs are preinstalled in browsers, client software, and operating systems, so that the CA itself is validated by the software developer or OS maker. That's where the out-of-band trust comes for the CA!

Firefox alerts you when StartSSL asks for a personal certificate with which to authenticate yourself.

If the browser is mathematically convinced that the certificate is from a valid party for that domain, a key is exchanged, and a session is encrypted.
You can sign your own digital certificates, essentially acting as your own certificate authority, but that's a problem. Because a client and/or OS doesn't know that GlennFleishmanCA is a real authority, the client or OS has to prompt a user to accept an untrusted relationship. Depending on the process, the user may be able to trust a session or not, or to accept a CA's authority permanently.
In an organization, a self-signed cert can work because you can either tell everyone to accept the signing certificate's authority, or you can preinstall the root authority for your own CA in each person's computer. (That can be as simple as dragging a file into a system-wide key manager, clicking import and importing it, or clicking through a couple of dialog boxes.)
But instead of all that tedium and management, especially as new employees or colleagues come and go, it makes more sense to get a fully CA-validated certificate. And you can get one for free.
Start with StartSSL

StartCom's StartSSL service offers a Class 1 certificate at no cost, with fees for higher levels of identity validation (see the site's chart for comparisons). A basic Class 1 certificate doesn't validate all your details; email to a known domain contact address is the only real check. A Class 2 or 3 certificate with your identity or your organization's identity is $40 for two years. An extended validation certificate, which uses an industry standard for checking a submitter's details, is $110 for two years, and will tell a browser to show a green bar on connection.
While StartSSL is free, it isn't a clear process to those that haven't created a certificate before. Let me tell you how to walk through the site.
StartSSL uses an S/MIME personal certificate to let you log in after sign-up. This is certainly more complicated than requiring a username and a password, but it's ostensibly much more reliable because you have to have this cert, which can't be intercepted over a network or captured through keystroke monitoring. Direct access to someone's computer, likely with additional passwords, would be required to access it. (After creating the S/MIME certificate, you can use it to sign emails in programs that support S/MIME.)
(Note: Safari 4 under Mac OS X doesn't correctly interact with StartSSL's site for certificate download, validation, or menu selection. Use Firefox in Mac OS X or Firefox or Internet Explorer under Windows instead.)

Firefox manages personal certificates in its Preferences window under Advanced > Encryption > Your Certificates

Start at the Authenticate or Sign-Up page.Click Sign-up.Fill out the Personal Enrollment details and click Continue. (StartTLS offers many imprecations against trying to falsify data here.)Check the email account for the address you provided in step 3, get the validation code, and enter it, clicking Continue to proceed.Next, StartSSL will generate the private key needed for the client certificate it provides to you for authentication. There's no good reason to choose anything but 2048 (High Grade) as the option. Click Continue.Click Install when the Install button appears. This should be an automatic background process. In Firefox, the certificate is installed into an internal database, from which it can be exported. (If you want to use these credentials with another browser, you can download them again from within the StartSSL website, or you can export the certificate from Firefox and drag into or import into another browser on the same or a different computer.)Click Finish, and you're taken to an authenticated control panel page.

I think I made a mistake!

The machine is running XP Pro (loaded via upgrade from XP Home) and SP
2. =20

Installed Partition and Boot Magic (PartitionMagic 8.0) on the system
with the plans of installing another operating system. I made a small
=46AT partition (following the directions in BootMagic) to install
BootMagic. Installed and all went fine.

However, it turned out I didn't need to install another operating system
(don't ask) and, rather than RTFM, just erased and deleted the small
partition BootMagic resided in. Now, when I boot, I get a message
saying that the BTMAGIC.IMG file can't be found and Boot Magic needs to
be installed again. Press a key and the system boots normally.

Tried to recreate the partition, but when I attempt to re-install BM, it
tells me that:

"Setup cannot find the location of where BootMagic was originally
installed. Make sure the volume BootMagic is installed on is visible,
and is assigned the same drive letter as at the time of install."

The volume is there, assigned the same drive letter and visible, but I
expect that when I erased the partition, everything disappeared and BM
setup gets lost. =20

Any ideas on how I might get BootMagic out of there at the time of boot
or how to reinstall it and exit gracefully?

I hope I can get this thread moving in the right direction. I want to know if it's SAFE to partition Win 7. Let me explain. With Win 2K and XP, I created an unattended floppy disk and used the ProfilesDir="D:Documents and Settings" command in winnt.sif to put ALL user profiles onto D: (partition or drive). So I've done this on literally hundreds of computers for nearly a decade with no ill effects.

Having skipped Vista entirely, I've now come to Win 7. I'd like to do the same thing with it as I did with XP. But I've heard that beginning with Vista, trying to relocate user data was perilous and might come back to bite me. I read somewhere that if you did this in Vista, you'd be fine until you tried to install your first service pack, which would fail. Apparently Microsoft has used so many programming tricks to relate "users" to "documents and settings" that Windows is a bit, let's say, "fragile".

So Win 7 appears to have methods by which I *could* relocate the Users folder, but it appears to be an unwise decision. I point to as supporting this statement:

The ProfilesDirectory setting specifies the path to the user profile folder.

Use this setting to move the user profile folder (typically %SYSTEMDRIVE%Users) to another location during Setup or Sysprep. The destination path can be on a volume other than the system drive, as long as it meets the following requirements:

It must be on an NTFS volume.

It must not be the path of another operating system user profile folder.

It must not contain any serviceable components.

This setting can be used to keep system data separate from user data. If Windows is re-installed on the system volume, a user with administrative rights can manually recover data from this location.

This setting should be used only in a test environment. By changing the default location of the user profile directories or program data folders to a volume other than the System volume, you will not be able to service your Windows installation. Any updates, fixes, or service packs will fail to be applied to the installation. Microsoft does not recommend that you change the location of the user profile directories or program data folders.
Using this setting to redirect folders to a drive other than the system volume blocks upgrades. Using ProfilesDirectory to point to a directory that is not the system volume will block SKU upgrades and upgrades to future versions of Windows. For example if you use Windows Vista Home Premium with ProfilesDirectory set to D:, you will not be able to upgrade to Windows Vista Ultimate or to the next version of Windows. The servicing stack does not handle cross-volume transactions, and it blocks upgrades.

So unless someone has any evidence to the contrary, it appears that relocating the profiles is now essentially broken by this state-of-the-art operating system.

I've also seen people saying that using symbolic links will allow relocation to another partition. See
but you also must read through some of the discussion towards the bottom. A poster called OhDannyBoy seems to have a method that MIGHT work for some.

Finally, in my limited testing so far, I even tried Microsoft's recommended way to relocate specific folders of my profile, by right-clicking in Win Explorer, going to the "Location" tab and using the "Move" function. Which worked OK, except that after relocating my "Documents" folder, my Outlook PST was screwed up such that I could NOT use my Contacts folder. It just would not let me use my existing "Contacts" folder AS a contacts folder. So I had to nuke my existing Outlook profile, make a new one, and point to my PST. Which was a nuisance in having to manually recreate 5 mail accounts with ports and passwords.

I guess I'm really disappointed to have to resort to SO much work for something that was 10 years ago accomplished with a single line of text in a file on a floppy disk.


After logging in I receive the dreaded "Windows detected a hard disk problem" and as luck would have it, it is the C: drive which contains the operating system. Although I can use the system, I periodically get the "Windows detected a hard disk problem" message and everything is running real slow.

I have another identical drive D: installed on the computer that contains my user data (already backed up). What can I do to move the operating system to the other drive before the C drive dies entirely.

What I have attempted so far. Using Norton Ghost 15.0 I copied my C: drive to my D: drive using options

Copy My Hard Drive (Copy all existing files, programs, and settings from one hard drive to another)
Check source for file system errors
Check destination for file system errors
Set drive active
Copy MBR

After the copy completed successfully I shut down the computer and moved the SATA cable from the original drive to the new drive. Upon booting, I get the error Boot MGR is missing. Using the original DVD I did a repair and then the system booted to the login screen. It accepted my password but instead of logging me in normally, it displayed the building profile message. After running for a long time the screen turns to a light blue. In the lower right corner of the screen is displayed
Windows 7
Build 7600
This copy of Windows is not Genuine.
It hangs there with no response other than the mouse is still active. The screen is blank with the exception of the above message.

OS: WIN7 Ultimate 64 bit
Dell Studio XPS with 12 gig RAM and dual 1 TB drives.

Any help will be sincerely appreciated as I need to get this copied before the C drive dies entirely. I have spent a year getting applications installed and tweaked (Apache server, MySQL, PHP, etc.) and I don't want to start from scratch.

Dell has sent me a replacement drive with the OS installed and it operates OK so I am confident the Motherboard is OK.


So I've been getting BSODs now and again. It usually happens when I'm playing a game, or sometimes right after. I assume it is a hardware or driver error due to "IRQL_NOT_LESS_OR_EQUAL".

I've noticed that the amount of blue screens I get seems to decrease when I open up my case, which leads me to believe that it might've been temperature related. This is why I recently cleaned my entire computer's interior to make sure it simply wasn't dust that had been collecting over the past year. Unfortunately this did not help.

The rate of blue screens isn't really high. One day it might be four, another day one or maybe even none.

I've been looking for a tool which writes all temperatures, CPU, GPU, etc to a simple text file which I can then open and look at after a blue screen. Unfortunately I haven't found a decent tool to do this yet.

A few days ago I also did a complete format of my computer and installed a clean version of Windows 7 together with Service Pack 1. Unfortunately this didn't help either, because after playing a game for a while I got a BSOD.

I also ran Windows Memory Diagnostic which didn't find any errors. I know, it isn't Memtest, but I haven't been able to run that yet.

Anyway, I've added the basic files from the SF Diagnostic Tool and screenshots from every tab in CPU-Z. I also added some info to my profile, but I think most of that is also in the screenshots.

I'd really appreciate it if someone could look at the files and see if they can find something wrong. Maybe certain drivers that I should install, et cetera. Attached Files Seven (1.04 MB, 77 views) Last edited by Xylon; 08-01-2012 at 05:40 PM. Share Share this post on Digg Technorati Twitter
Operating System Windows 7 x64
OS Service Pack Service Pack 1
DirectX Version 10
CPU Type and Speed AMD Phenom II X4 955 (3.5ghz)
CPU Cooling Scythe Mugen
Motherboard Chipset AMD 790X (Gigabyte GA-MA790XT-UD4P)
System Memory Type Kingston DDR3 PC3-10700
System Memory Speed 667 MHz
Video Card Type and Speed Sapphire HD 4890 Toxic
Power Supply Unit (PSU) Cooler Master 620 watt (RS-620-ASAA-A1)
Anti-virus Software F-Secure Client Security 9
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Join Date Aug 2012 Posts 2 Re: BSOD most likely caused by faulty hardware or drivers, not quite sure which and how to proceed So I'm wondering whether I did something wrong.

Did I forget to add certain information?Are there some basic steps I should have taken first?Is this a common problem which can easily be solved by googling?Was my post too long?Or is it simply something that you do not have an answer to?
One thing I'll do now is update my BIOS, which seems to be suggested a lot.

I don't want to seem impatient, I was just wondering about the above and whether there is anything I can do to help.

I first found out at the beginning of last year that there was going to be a Windows 8,and that Microsoft had finished making Windows 8.And I read about and saw a preview of what Windows 8 was going to be like,and I knew right away that I did not like it.

To tell you the truth, when I first saw the preview of what Windows 8 looked like and what it was going to be,I had the shock of my life.

Windows 8 has NO START MENU,oh my God. And instead of the normal Windows Desktop that is in all the other versions of Windows from Windows 95 to Windows 7,that has been replaced by tiles known as the Metro theme. And as a result from what I read on the web and saw in other videos,most people,even computer geeks are finding it almost impossible to use. And Microsoft has no plans to make Windows 8 with a normal desktop and start menu,like Windows 7 has.

In England you can no longer buy Windows XP and Windows Vista computers and laptops,because they have stopped making and selling them. You can now only buy Windows 7. And it is often the case that when Microsoft brings out a new version of Windows that computer makers and shops stop selling the old version.

And I don't know what I will do if they stop selling Windows 7, and then if my computer wears out I will be forced to buy Windows 8. As I have limited experience with computers. I stopped using Linux a year ago because I don't know how to use it. And I found Linux hard and difficult to use and I could not use it, that is why I stay with Windows. Also many brands of Linux do not have a start menu or desktop,Ubuntu for example does not. And so I could not even find the settings on most brands of Linux. Another reason why I could not use Linux, as well as many other problems with Linux.

Now they have made this Windows 8, that does not look like Windows at all, and looks like Mac or Linux. And it is as ugly as hell,the Metro theme is. I have never installed Windows 8, even though there is now the developers preview that you can install. But I have read and seen videos on the web of other people who have installed Windows 8.And each person who has tried it has found Windows 8 almost impossible or impossible to use.So if the most experienced computer geeks cannot use Windows 8.Then I know for sure that I won't be able to use it, and other ordinary computer users won't be able use it either.

The biggest problem with Windows 8 is the Metro theme and other things,the fact that it is based on an I Pad.And I don't even know what an I pad is,let alone how to use one.

I got my first home computer,a Windows 7 netbook in April 2010. Before that I was using Internet cafes.Where I learned how to use a computer from the person sitting next to me,who showed me how to use a computer.Before that I did not even know how to use a mouse, but thanks to this person,I learned how to use a computer. Although my typing is not good,I type with two fingers,that is two finger typing, and looking at the keyboard.So it would not pass an office.

And of course in the Internet cafes they have Windows XP,but when I got my first laptop it had Windows 7.But because Windows 7 has a start menu,taskbar and normal Windows desktop. Just like Windows XP and Windows 2000 does,except that Windows 7 has the transparent Aero theme,I am able to use Windows 7 just like I use Windows XP.And I was able to use Windows 7 without any problems.

And any Windows XP user who has upgraded to Windows 7 can use Windows 7,because it has a start menu and normal Windows desktop. And if you don't like the Aero theme which is only the look,you can set your theme to Windows Classic. Windows Classic theme setting makes it looks like Windows 2000,but from here you can change the start menu,taskbar and desktop color to any color you choose using the color picker.

And Windows Classic theme setting also turns off the Aero theme.

The Aero theme is the transparent theme or transparency you get if you set Windows 7 to Aero or Windows 7 Basic theme setting.

Windows Vista also has the Aero theme and Windows Classic Theme like Windows 7 does. Some people find Windows Vista slower than Windows 7 but at least with Windows Vista,you have got a start menu,taskbar and normal desktop. And you have also got a start menu,taskbar and normal desktop with Windows XP,Windows 7 and all other versions of Windows,Windows 2000,Windows 98 and 95.

But you DON'T have a start menu or normal Windows desktop on Windows 8,that's the problem. And it is a big problem for other Windows users and Windows users like me who have limited experience with computers. And the start menu,taskbar and Windows desktop is whole thing and the only thing Windows users know and understand.

Not this horrible ugly Metro theme that is Windows 8, and is impossible to figure out how to use. On the appearance side Windows 8 is the most horrible thing I have ever seen. And the whole operating system with the Metro theme is impossible to use. And I don't think I could figure out how to use it.

Now I have 4 Windows 7 netbooks,each with different versions of Windows 7, and 2 Windows XP netbooks. I bought my Windows XP netbooks last year and I enjoy using both Windows 7 and Windows XP.They are both perfect in every way.

Windows Vista I am not sure about,there is a question mark over that. As I had a second hand Windows Vista laptop that did not work properly and the laptop broke.But you cannot judge Windows Vista based on one bad experience with a faulty laptop. And Windows Vista may be faster on a newer and more modern laptop. But at least Windows Vista has a normal Windows start menu,and desktop.Windows 8 does not.

And any Windows XP user who has upgraded to Windows 7 will feel right at home. Windows 7 will run most Windows XP software,Windows Live Essentials for Windows XP,Web browsers and media players for Windows XP. And not only that, it will also run all of the Windows Vista software as well.As well as web browsers and software made for Windows 2000 and earlier versions of well as all of the latest software of course. I don't think that you could run all of your Windows 2000,Windows XP,Windows Vista or even your Windows 7 software on Windows 8. In fact you probably cannot run Windows 8 at all the way that it is.The system they have with the Metro theme.

And also most people have spent money on new Windows 7 computer or laptops and have only just upgraded to Windows 7 and gotten used to it. They don't want to go on another operating system that is not even like Windows and that they cannot figure out how to use.

I think it is disgusting that Microsoft have created this Windows 8 and made it like Mac or Linux.And removed all of the Windows features and replaced it with this Metro theme and as a result created an operating system that most people including myself cannot figure out how to use. And from what i have seen on the videos does not work anyway. And as you know when they make a new version of Windows they stop selling the old version.

If they start selling Windows 8 and making and selling Windows 8 computers and laptops.And they stop selling Windows 7 and we are forced to buy Windows 8 all Windows users including me are going to be in trouble,big trouble. Because I and most people don't know how to install operating systems. And from what I hear anyway Windows 8 may have a secure boot system that blocks the installation of other operating systems,like Linux and maybe other versions of Windows. So we won't even be able to install Windows 7 or Windows XP over Windows 8 on a Windows 8 computer.

So if Windows 8 does go out and so when our laptops wear out we are forced to buy Windows 8.We all will be stuck with it and the shop keepers are not going to care if you go home with a laptop with an operating system that you cannot figure out how to use.They just want to sell you something.It won't be the shop keepers that have to live with Windows 8, we will. But of course we cannot because of the way it is.

I have never installed Windows 8.If I did I would probably wreck my computer.

People should get together and have street marches and street protests against Windows 8 and protest to keep Windows 7 alive forever. And bring back all of the other versions of Windows,Windows XP,Windows 2000,while they are at it. I think we should write to our President or Prime Minister so that governments can ban Windows 8. As if they get rid of Windows 7 and replace it with this Windows 8.Most people including me,will have to give up using a computer.

And why would you want to give up Windows 7 for Windows 8 anyway? Windows 7 has everything we want. Some people have suggested that if they must make a Windows 8 they should make one with a normal Windows 7 start menu and desktop and NO Metro theme. But it seems that Microsoft are not going to do that.

So here is how to avoid being stuck with the dreaded Windows 8. Now,stock up on Windows 7 laptops. Now buy as many Windows 7 and Windows XP laptops as you can while you can still buy them. Buy 10 or 20 Windows 7 or Windows XP laptops and put them away somewhere safe in a cupboard.Then when your computers you are using now wear out. You will have enough Windows 7 laptops to stay on Windows 7 for the next 10 or 20 years or longer. Then you will never be in a situation where you are forced to buy Windows 8 or get stuck with Windows 8 in the future. Andrea Borman.

Warning: This is a long one, 3 conventional pages (including an Appendix, for Heaven's sake!)

Microsoft has made a Byzantine mystery out of getting ahold of their 'HotFix' for the "Detect and Repair" bug in Outlook that I am supplying it here with instructions for its use. The Outlook problem comes from a faulty file installed with IE: vga.dll. Read on.

This Microsoft fix works just splendidly, once installed; and will end all Outlook problems related to the IE installation. Sinxce I hate to see members here suffer tooth-grinding frustration, I am giving you next week's Microsoft Passord to save you stumbling through their bizarre obstacle course.

I'm going to run through the errors in the fix that MS gave me for those interested, only. Others can follow a faster route that I'll show you in a second.

In the 'Appendix' to this message, you van find the full text of the Microsoft email I received and the pertinent article from the Microsoft Knowledge Base. All of that is supplied for those who want to follow the short discussion below. For those who prefer to simply use the HotFix as soon as they can--here's your promised shortcut: Skip down half-a-dozen paragraphs to where you see this paragraph start:
*Here is the... "

There you will find all you need to use this HotFix.

For those who like to follow the reasoning of thing, come along with me as I go through a brief review of the errors found in my copy of the HotFix Support email. To make sense of what I am saying, you should probably open or print out the 1-page attachment to this Msg. It is a verbatim copy of the original from Microsoft Support, and was only successfully solicited after having daringly negotiated The Mystery Maze of Horrors that Microsoft has (for some obscure reason) erected around their HotFix Department.

Here are the 3 errors I found in the attached:

Error #1

The instructions are emphatic, and wrong. The user is ordered to include "all the text" between the two brackets. But that text includes two, not one, URL. Anyone trying to use that tangle would be grounded. So one version must be deleted. Wise user will delete the 2nd address, since that contains another error, all its own.


Ah...the second address. The error here is the inclusion of the < > signs at beginning and end. They're a little tricky since we are so used to seeing them in print, used for addresses and commands. In print, we know to eliminate them before use. But here we are under strict orders to "include all text between" those brackets. And of course they are inside the brackets. Whatever the authority behind our current orders, we have to remove the two < > signs before we can get anywhere.


In my email, there is a Carriage Return inside the URL, and it is half hidden. Until that's removed all else is void. You'll find it just where the line physically breaks. So that must be seamed together.

That's it with the errors. Now, here's the passwords and stuff.

*Here is the corrected URL, the GOOD URL:

And here is the Superbly Secret, Multiply Mystical, Microsoft Private Password. NOTE: These Passwords are JUST good for 7 days, and then they are changed -- so get moving.

Good until 5/10/2001 9:14:30am: @DrCNaep-$

Good until 5/17/2001 (?) : dNCBiP7u-Y

By the way, the password is just used during INSTALL, not during Download; that makes it real easy.

The download file is small (around 600Kb), and zipped.

Installation is a snap.

All Happy Things,


Appendix I - Microsoft Knoledge Base Article.

Office 2000 "Detect and Repair" Process Generates Error Code 1931
The information in this article applies to:

Microsoft Internet Explorer version 5.5 for Windows NT 4.0
Microsoft Internet Explorer version 5.5 for Windows 98
Second Edition
Microsoft Internet Explorer version 5.5 for Windows 2000

After you install Microsoft Office 2000 and Internet Explorer 5.5, the Office 2000 Detect and Repair process may generate the following error message:

Microsoft Office 2000 SR-1 Professional Error 1931: The Windows Installer service cannot update the system file C:Program FilesCommon FilesMicrosoft SharedVGXVgx.dll because the file is protected by Windows. You may need to update your operating system for this program to work correctly.

NOTE: To more effectively search the Microsoft Knowledge Base, use keywords that relate to your issue when you search. If you are searching for troubleshooting information that is not referred to in this article, please try searching the Microsoft Knowledge Base again by using keywords that are listed in the following Microsoft Knowledge Base article:

Q242450 How to Query the Microsoft Knowledge Base Using Keywords

This problem can occur because the version of the Vector Graphics Extensions (Vgx.dll) file that is included with Internet Explorer 5.5 has the wrong checksum. The incorrect version of the Vgx.dll file that is installed by Internet Explorer 5.5 is:

Vgx.dll, version 5.50.4133.200 BetaVersion BETA, Office Version 10.0.803

The invalid checksum causes Microsoft Installer to determine that the file is damaged and needs to be restored.

On operating systems that do not support the System File Protection feature, the following Office version of the Vgx.dll file is installed by the Detect and Repair process from the CD-ROM or from the Microsoft Office Web site:
Vgx.dll, version 5.00.3014.1003, product version 5.00.3014.1003


A supported fix is now available from Microsoft, but it is only intended to correct the problem described in this article and should be applied only to systems experiencing this specific problem. This fix may receive additional testing at a later time, to further ensure product quality. Therefore, if you are not severely affected by this problem, Microsoft recommends that you wait for the next Internet Explorer service pack that contains this fix.

To resolve this problem immediately, contact Microsoft Product Support Services to obtain the fix. For a complete list of Microsoft Product Support Services phone numbers and information about support costs, please go to the following address on the World Wide Web:

NOTE: In special cases, charges that are normally incurred for support calls may be canceled, if a Microsoft Support Professional determines that a specific update will resolve your problem. Normal support costs will apply to additional support questions and issues that do not qualify for the specific update in question.

The English version of this fix should have the following file attributes or later:

Date Time Version Size File name Platform
11/07/2000 19:14 5.50.4211.7 1,769,544 Vgx.dll Intel


Microsoft has confirmed this to be a problem in the Microsoft products that are listed at the beginning of this article.

Additional query words:

Keywords : kberrmsg kbtool msient msiew98
Issue type : kbprb
Technology : kbIEsearch kbExchange550 kbZNotKeyword2 kbIENT400Search kbZNotKeyword3 kbIE2000Search kbIE98SESearch

Article ID: Q279177 Last Reviewed: February 23, 2001

Hi all,

I have bought a new laptop it came with pre-installed windows 7, there was another partition and I installed Windows XP that came with it, I wanted to create a dual boot. When I restart my PC it automatically starts on XP and it does not give me an option to choose between operating systems.

Does someone knwo how to do it?

Many thanks,

I guess I've been on another planet for the last two years, but, I just realized that Windows Updates have not been updating my 2003 Office Student and Teacher Edition. The release date for each of the 3 programs (Help, About) corresponds to the original release of each program except for Outlook which is 11.5608.5606. But none have SP 1, 2 or 3.

1. Should I apply SP3 to 2003 Office Student and Teacher Edition?
2. How do I get patches after SP3 to the three Office programs?
3. Do I need to download the WGA (KB892130) to update Office through the Microsoft site?
4. Is there one place on or windowssecrets that has all patches they recommend and/or don't recommend since Office SP3?
5. Is there anything in SP3 that warrants a custom install to exclude certain non-recommended patches?

I will need to buy a new computer in about 6 to 12 months at which time I will be using a more current version of Office than 2003.
But for now, I'm stuck with Office 2003 on an XP SP3 operating system.
Thank you so very much for any help you can give me.

I have reserved a great deal of time not passing judgement on Windows 8, but so far I am not as enthused as, perhaps, I should be. This is not to say that I have given up on Windows 8, but for me, the Consumer Preview just isn't doing it. The main problem, of course, for me, and I suspect many others, is not so much the lack of Start Orb, but the Metro UI itself. Please allow me to explain:

Is Windows 8 a service, a product, or both?

I have discussed this quite entangling issue to some length with others in confidence, and have found myself to be disappointed with Metro UI. Some concerns that I see myself and others having is the Metro UI as a service platform for Windows Live. It is clear to me that this is likely the reason that Metro UI has been embedded into the operating system. While its usability is no doubt optimized for touch screens and next generation human interface devices, I find myself frustrated with the pre-installed applications in the Windows 8 Consumer Preview. In fact, I find myself quite annoyed, and in some cases, startled by what happens when you link your Windows Live ID to Microsoft Windows 8.

In Microsoft Windows 98 SE, upon launching Internet Explorer 5, one of the first screens a user saw was:

"Welcome to MSN Internet Access"
"Get fast, reliable Internet access and e-mail from Microsoft."

During that time, it was uncommon for someone to be on a LAN (local area network) using a router. A LAN would actually have to be manually set up, and so Microsoft attempted to use MSN as an Internet Service Provider to give you dial-up access to the Internet using a dial-up modem.

However, this terminology is telling to me. The issues with Active Desktop from the Windows 9x series of operating systems have not been lost on me. In this context, I am mindful of the fact that Microsoft has attempted to control the desktop, and did make an early bid to control and monetize on the Internet, from its early ages. This is not so much condemnation of Microsoft as it is a realization that Microsoft is a business: just like Google and Facebook.

But what was once seen as a massive attempt to take over the Internet by a corporation that controls the majority of the operating system market, now seems to be getting a welcome reception with bells and whistles from a new generation, corporations, media, and people planning on selling books off their review sites. Indeed, even Paul Thurrott threw me for a loop in one of his more recent reviews, when he concluded something like (paraphrase) "More soon... I have a book to write! (Windows 8 Secrets)".

I have always admired Paul, and his contributions with reviews and early access to Microsoft software. In fact, I have nothing against the guy. But it is true. He has a book to write. About all of the secrets of Windows 8. Much of that review was spent explaining what certain features do. And why they actually may be relevant. To me, this was a sharp departure from highlighting some of the improvements that could be found in the OS or talking about faster benchmarks and better ease of use. What I saw was a middle-of-the-road exploration of features that are so difficult to interpret or understand, even though they are deeply embedded into the operating system, that he has to go around telling you what they are for.

Most of the benchmarks performed on the CP show that there is a small performance blow in comparison to Windows 7, thus far. The system does not run any faster, but boot times have been expedited by code optimization. We have seen this before, with other Windows releases besides Windows 7. One major drag on the operating system seems to be battery usage. The results seem to be inconclusive in this realm, with one site showing better returns, and another site showing massive battery consumption compared to Windows 7. Even though memory deduplication is supposed to improve battery life, benchmarks show either less battery utilization, or much more.

Better Battery Life:
Hands on with Windows 8 CP: Battery life test | ITworld

Less Battery Life:
Windows 8 Consumer Preview: A Quick Look at Battery Life (Updated) | Your source for downloading popular benchmarks

Then there is the whole idea of interest in this OS:

windows 8 cp vs 7 vs xpsp3 benchmarks? - Neowin Forums

Huh? What is going on here? Where is the main interest in the system that we saw with the likes of Windows 7 and even Windows Vista? Windows Vista was a major flop for Microsoft, and it was released years after Windows XP. Still, it offered robust security, and was a step in the right direction for many of us. This is because Windows XP was released in October 2001, and something had to go in the right direction after so much time. Now, with Windows 7 only a couple years old, one is left to ask whether they even need a new operating system. With five years of time between Windows XP and Windows Vista, we still saw big manufacturers like Dell and HP offering downgrades to Windows XP - which many businesses took to save money, at their own peril. But Windows 7 offered something its predecessor, Windows Vista, could not offer. And that was performance on par with Windows XP, a much more slick look, and virtualization technology that would allow anyone with a fairly decent computer system to run, not just a legacy Windows XP application, but the entire Windows XP operating system, in a virtual machine inside Windows 7.

My first point was about Windows 8 as a service, and that is where I also run into some difficulty swallowing the results. Windows 8, when connected with a Windows Live account, seems to want to download your life from Facebook. The "People" Metro application runs a Facebook-based application that, with your consent, downloads all of your information from Facebook and syndicates it to your Windows Live page and Windows Live Messenger. It then uses that information to help you find your "people", by literally just taking all of the data off of your Facebook account. Then, your Windows Live status page becomes something of a Facebook clone. You can find even more people by performing the same task on LinkedIn, and presumably, in the future, all other services, perhaps maybe Google. But what if they let you link Google as well? Then, you can just access everything from "People", which is your Windows Live Messenger status page. What incentive do those other sites have to continue to develop their own social networking sites?

Next up was the product placement in Metro UI applications. When going to video, I found advertisements for popular television shows like The Walking Dead on AMC. It appears that you will eventually be able to purchase video content from this store, and watch videos on your computer. Where will this content come from? Microsoft, of course. This would not be a problem for me, if other services did not exist, like Netflix, for this very purpose. Then, going to Music doesn't show any advertisements just yet - but it does show a blank user library, where you can't add any music to it unless you go into the Desktop any way. Chances are this will be changed, but that doesn't discount the fact that over a decade of software development went into Windows Media Player, which has taken almost a dozen versions for any serious audiophile to even remotely take into consideration. Most will still jump over to iTunes, Winamp, and foobar. Does the Music app interact in some way with Windows Media Player? Is Windows Media Player being phased out? Is Microsoft going to offer its own music service now? We are left to try to figure this out.

You may be wondering where this is going. For me, any way, controlling the presentation means controlling the content. I am very pleased that services have been created like Steam for games and Spotify for music. With these programs, you are able to purchase music as a service. You are also able to purchase and download the full version of games. This software is fantastic, has its own interface, and offers remarkable service when you create an account. You are free to buy stuff, or never do that at all. You can take advantage of social networking within these services. But the great thing about these programs, in my opinion, has always been that you can install and uninstall them at your leisure. Thus, I ask the question, why can't Metro UI itself, just be an icon on the desktop, and a component of Windows that can be removed at any time? After testing the Windows Live features in the built-in Microsoft apps, I am left to make a conclusion I don't really want to make. That conclusion is that because Microsoft could not market social networking to the masses on par with Facebook or Google+, and because the company could not market their operating system to phones and tablets, they have decided to use forced obsolescence to make sure that everyone on the entire planet that buys a PC desktop or laptop computer, besides Linux users, will be forced to interact with their online services like Windows Live and Bing.

When I use the term forced obsolescence, I specifically state that Windows 8 is being designed to make Windows 7 obsolete - eventually. While the touch screen features are great, they seem to be an excuse for giving us a brand new version of Active Desktop. However, this time, everyone actually uses the Internet, and bandwidth/connection speed/throughput is no longer a major concern.

I am left to imagine an Internet where everyone who used a Microsoft Windows computer signed up for MSN Internet Access in Windows 98 and never bought a router. What if everyone in the world was OK with Microsoft placing advertisements for their own or preferred online services in all of their applications years ago? Well, you'd never have Facebook, Google, Yahoo, or a number of other companies. Everyone would be using MSN Search (Bing), Windows Live, Windows Live Messenger, and Windows Live Mail (Hotmail). I am reminded of America Online.

I have never really minded that Microsoft sells their online services to the world. Windows Live has always been something I considered a decent alternative to Google. However, I do have a problem with the operating system that I use also being designed directly to connect to a slew of services I do not use, and likely never will. This includes everything I listed above about Windows Live. This integration of applications that are dependent on Windows Live is a sharp contrast from Windows 7, and I, at least right now, would have major privacy issues divulging all of my Facebook information, online information, and handing it over to Windows Live. I like the fact that I can use multiple social networks, and that I have options. I use Windows Live for a variety of reasons, but I would never want it to be the only option on my phone. much less my desktop. I would want to be able to uninstall software applications associated with Live.

Because Microsoft controls the operating system market, they have decided to expand their business and compete in other areas. This includes gaming consoles, phones, and tablets. I have never taken issue with this, but I do take issue when these services are being bundled and forced down my throat in an OS release. I am reminded of how, on nearly every operating system installation I performed for years, I would have to be sure to remove the "Online Services" section from Microsoft Windows. These "Online Services" included America Online, AT&T WorldNet, CompuServe, and Prodigy.

Today, the desktop is being phased out. Many Windows 8 Consumer Preview users have found this to be a difficult issue to deal with. They claim they prefer the traditional desktop and Start Menu. I find that to be true, but for different reasons. At the click of a few buttons, in order to use the People app in Windows, Microsoft downloaded nearly the entire contents of my online Facebook account. They downloaded my data from LinkedIn. And they turned it into a Windows Live service. When I go to the Videos app, they're trying to sell me movies and TV shows when I already have Netflix. When I go to the desktop, I'm led to believe that the entire concept is a legacy feature. When I want to access a web browser, I don't want it to take up my entire screen and use 20% of my entire monitor to show me what my browser URL is. What happens when I actually need to do some real work? What happens when I need to bypass all of this junk?

For me, it will probably be easy. I have worked in IT and trained myself on how to get around almost anything. I have learned, over the years, what services are not essential on a Windows desktop, and how to install, manage, and maintain all kinds of different services. But for a person who is basic to intermediary with computers, they will never get passed Metro. They will have their content presented to them in a way Microsoft can control. And instead of the Internet being divided up into different areas operated by different corporations and public interest groups, it becomes very clear to me that Microsoft will showcase a heavy hand in controlling all online content, including multimedia, browsing, search, and social networking. Whereas before people didn't use their services because Google or Facebook may have had an edge, tomorrow people will be led to believe that this is much easier. With no off switch, Metro UI becomes a platform for delivering "online services" as part of the computing experience itself. And in so far that Microsoft could not put a dent in the multi-billion dollar online advertising network run by Google, or take advantage of the benefits of data mining that Facebook has had with their one billion users, they will now use their operating system platform to scoop up hundreds of millions, if not billions of new Windows Live members. To me, this matters.

While I have never had an issue with Google managing my e-mails and search, they also don't control the presentation of all the apps on my desktop. And while I may rely on their online services, I would never purchase an operating system released by them for just that reason. And that brings me back to Metro UI, and the reason why, at least right now, I can't tolerate it.

Here will be my test: If Windows 8 is even significantly slower or more resource intensive than Microsoft Windows 7, I will likely have no reason to upgrade. With a big magnifying glass being placed on my online presence through the integration of Windows Live into my operating system, I won't want to. If my computer boots a few seconds faster with Windows 8, I'll still breathe a sigh of relief that someone isn't trying to sell me zombie flicks directly on my desktop with no off switch.

I won't have as many privacy concerns as others will. If people were upset that Microsoft was going overboard with including Internet Explorer with their operating system, they will be infuriated by the massive takeover of the desktop with intrusive data-collecting applications that make up the Windows 8 Metro UI interface on install. While Microsoft was once a software development company that released products, they have now concerned themselves with maintaining a strong and marketable online presence on the web. They want people using their services on every phone, every gaming console, every desktop, every laptop, and every type of device in existence that uses a micro-processor. For me, this is overboard, and not what I'm interested in spending my money on.

I would have liked if Microsoft came out with an option for consumers: Pay a $100 annual subscription for feature improvements to the operating system. That is a service I would have been willing to buy. And under those circumstances, I'm willing to bet I'd be promptly allowed to uninstall Metro UI and delete the shortcut to it off my desktop; something that will never happen once you examine the changes that have been made between the Windows 8 Developer Preview and the Windows 8 Consumer Preview.

When discussing the new OS with even some of the most technically minded individuals, a guy who designed a Skype app for Windows Phone before the official one was even announced, I found these types of comments:

"Im going to place a shortcut to shutdown.exe -s on my desktop. Although I have my power button assigned to turn it off too."

If that's not being "Vista'd" I don't know what is. But perhaps here are some other considerations:

If this is the most advanced operating system in the world, is it going to even detect whether or not you have a touch screen monitor, and adjust the situation to compensate?

As one other expert put it, why do you have to do "double-backflips" to shut it down?

If the Windows 8 installation asked if you wanted to install Metro UI, would the majority of desktop users currently say no?

Does the operating system showcase more opportunities to market Microsoft online services than it does actual improvements to productivity, usability, and computing power?

How come the only way to close an app is to hit ALT-F4 or CTRl-ALT-DEL, but the option to download TV shows seems to be fully developed? Is this thing like a hotel room menu or something?

Is this OS release inspired by a spur of new innovation or a desire to compete more directly with iOS, Android, Google, Facebook, and Apple?

Does Windows 8 outperform Windows 7?

I'd love to read your comments.

(These are my opinions and they do not reflect on anyone else here at They are subject to change, of course. Here's hoping Microsoft gets it right.)

I might be unusual in that I already have a good idea whats causing my BSODs in my new Win7 installation.
I have old ASUS drivers which are for my P5N-E sli Motherboard I believe and one in particular ASACPI.sys
However when I try to update this driver Windows 7 says the software for the driver is up to date! Umm no its not as its dated 2004 and I have a later driver for it to use! Any idea how to get round that issue????
Anyway here are my specs and the CPU-Z shots etc you wanted.
Win 7 Home Premium 32Bit Version 6.17601 SP1
Intel Q6600 2.4Gig CPU
2 Gig of Ram
P5N-E Sli Motherboard
ASUS GTX560 Ti Video Card


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Operating System Win 7 Home Premium 32Bit Version 6.17601 SP1
Computer Type Desktop P5N-E Sli Motherboard
OS Service Pack Version 6.17601 SP1
Internet Explorer Version 9
DirectX Version 11
CPU Type and Speed Intel Q6600 2.4Gig
CPU Cooling Fan
Motherboard Chipset NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI
System Memory Type DDR2
Video Card Type and Speed ASUS GTX560 Ti
Power Supply Unit (PSU) 750W
Computer Monitor ViewSonic 21"
Sound Card Soundblaster Live 24bit
System Install Date 9/07/2011
Computer Skill Level Average Ability
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Join Date Jul 2011 Posts 20 Re: New Windows 7 Installation crashing Just had another one.:
Had another crash so have attached the screen captures of the Blue screenview errors and the Device manager.
So I thought I would try uninstalling the ATK0110 ACPI Utility and the graphics card and all its software. I then rebooted reinstalled the graphics card then tried to update the ATK0110 ACPI Utility driver (which had come back after the reboot(!) but this keeps on saying it has the latest driver (2004) even though I try and install a newer driver which I downloaded (ATKDrv_V1043231105_Win7_32) which has this file atkacpi.sys dated 2009 inside it. When you try and run this part PNPINST which is the exe file it comes up with the error which I have attached.
So for some reason it doesn't want to let go of the old driver. Bad bad Windows! Attached Thumbnails Attached Files Blue screen.txt (2.0 KB, 68 views) Share Share this post on Digg Technorati Twitter
Operating System Win 7 Home Premium 32Bit Version 6.17601 SP1
Computer Type Desktop P5N-E Sli Motherboard
OS Service Pack Version 6.17601 SP1
Internet Explorer Version 9
DirectX Version 11
CPU Type and Speed Intel Q6600 2.4Gig
CPU Cooling Fan
Motherboard Chipset NVIDIA nForce 650i SLI
System Memory Type DDR2
Video Card Type and Speed ASUS GTX560 Ti
Power Supply Unit (PSU) 750W
Computer Monitor ViewSonic 21"
Sound Card Soundblaster Live 24bit
System Install Date 9/07/2011
Computer Skill Level Average Ability
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Join Date Mar 2010 Posts 1,946 Re: New Windows 7 Installation crashing Originally Posted by baz62 ASACPI.sys However when I try to update this driver Windows 7 says the software for the driver is up to date! Umm no its not as its dated 2004 and I have a later driver for it to use! Any idea how to get round that issue???? Hi baz62 and Welcome to The Forum.

Never rely on Windows Update or Device Manager to update your drivers until you've exhausted your PC Mfr., Motherboard Mfr. or the software/hardware Mfr. resources.

To stop Windows installing drivers Automatically
Go to Control Panel >> Devices and Printers, r-click your computer icon and select Device installation settings. Select Never install driver software from Windows Update >> Save Changes

Driver Install - Manual method

Download the driver and extract it to a folder.Open the Device Manager.Right click the device you wish to change the drivers for. You can select Properties > Driver > Driver Details to check you have the right device.Choose Update Driver Software.Select Browse My Computer For Driver Software.Select Let me pick from a list of device drivers on my computer.Select Have disk...Select Browse..Navigate to the extracted folder and double click on the .inf fileHit OK, then Next and the driver(s) will then begin to install.After it has installed, GoTo C:WindowsSystem32Drivers. Locate the Asacpi.sys driver, right click it and check the dates under its properties. You're looking for a "Modified" date of 2009 or 2010. Occasionally it can be a bit stubborn to change.
There is an update here for manual install: Asus ATK0110 driver. Look under the sub-heading: Utilities. Approx. 12th one down

Your RAM timings are set to 6-6-6-31 when it should be set to 6-6-6-18

HTH Will look at your dumpfile. Edit!! No I won't there isn't one. I NEED SLEEP!


I am consistently getting a BSOD on my new system build (Win7x64SP1.) It happens only when I browse my network folders while connected to my other desktop (Win7x86SP1) though ethernet (no router.) In this configuration both computers have their own wifi adapters for Internet connectivity to the apartment building's router. I have also tried sharing the Internet connection with one and the same thing happens. Browsing either mapped drives or network shares produces the same result. I detached all other external hardware to test as well.

The minidump refers to ntoskrnl.exe

It doesn't happen right away. Sometimes it's within 5 minutes, sometimes after an hour or two. I get no other BSODs at all.

If I network the two computers over a wifi adhoc, or through the landlord's router no BSOD happens. I can browse my home netowork, public network, mapped drives, whatever. It also does not happen when the ethernet NIC is connected to the router. I don't want to network through the loandlord's router for obvious reasons. Adhoc networking is a PITA and never retains the settings.

I built this system on 3/24/12 so all drivers are the newest. My memtests come out fine. (BTW my ram modules in the attached screenshots are 4 identical modules, so the specs are the same for all.) See my profile for system details. The Bios settings are not OC'd, and are default as much as possible.

The one thing I haven't tested yet is disabling both antivirus programs on the computers. The BSOD computer (the new one) has AVG 2012, and the other has Avast.

Oh, and I am using a different ethernet cable for the connection to the router than with the connection between the 2 computers (the one where no BSOD's happen is running outside so I really don't want to undo all the work.) I haven't tried borrowing another cable for testing.

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Operating System Win7x64 SP1
Computer Type Self Built
Internet Explorer Version Firefox v12.0, IE default Win7
CPU Type and Speed Intel G860 3.0ghz Dual core, No OC
CPU Cooling stock
CPU Idle Temp 37
CPU Load Temp 41 average
Motherboard Chipset Asus P8Z68-V LE, Intel z68 B3
System BIOS Revision 3702 3/15/2012
System Memory Type 8GB Pny 1600mhz CL9
System Memory Speed SPD 1333mhz, No OC for now
Video Card Type and Speed Nividia GT430 1Gb
Power Supply Unit (PSU) Antec 430W Bronze
Computer Monitor Toshiba 32" HD TV
Hard Drive 2x 1Tb Hitachi Deskstar 7200 32m
Network Adapter Realtek Ethernet RTL8168/8111 on board
Anti-virus Software AVG 2012
Productivity Suite WEI: 6.8, 7.6, 6.7, 6.7, 5.9
System Install Date 3/24/12
Computer Skill Level Self-Taught Expert
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Join Date Nov 2009 Posts 5,926 Blog Entries2 Re: BSOD ntoskrnl.exe: When browsing folders networked through Ethernet PC-to-PC Well you're on the right track.
The dump files are definitely trapping network issues
My guess would be AVG. So try it without it. You really can't disable it completely so uninstall it using the program's own uninstaller or the programs and features applet in the control panel and follow that up by using this proprietary vendor specific removal tool AVG Download tools and utilities (get the correct version for your architecture) and see how it goes.
Code: BugCheck 7F, {8, 80050033, 406f8, fffff80002e8329e} Unable to load image avgtdia.sys, Win32 error 0n2 *** WARNING: Unable to verify timestamp for avgtdia.sys *** ERROR: Module load completed but symbols could not be loaded for avgtdia.sys Probably caused by : tcpip.sys ( tcpip!WfpAuditEventGeneral+1da ) UNEXPECTED_KERNEL_MODE_TRAP (7f) This means a trap occurred in kernel mode, and it's a trap of a kind that the kernel isn't allowed to have/catch (bound trap) or that is always instant death (double fault). The first number in the bugcheck params is the number of the trap (8 = double fault, etc) Consult an Intel x86 family manual to learn more about what these traps are. Here is a *portion* of those codes: If kv shows a taskGate use .tss on the part before the colon, then kv. Else if kv shows a trapframe use .trap on that value Else .trap on the appropriate frame will show where the trap was taken (on x86, this will be the ebp that goes with the procedure KiTrap) Endif kb will then show the corrected stack. Arguments: Arg1: 0000000000000008, EXCEPTION_DOUBLE_FAULT Arg2: 0000000080050033 Arg3: 00000000000406f8 Arg4: fffff80002e8329e BUGCHECK_STR: 0x7f_8 CUSTOMER_CRASH_COUNT: 1 DEFAULT_BUCKET_ID: VISTA_DRIVER_FAULT PROCESS_NAME: System CURRENT_IRQL: 2 LAST_CONTROL_TRANSFER: from fffff80002edfbe9 to fffff80002ee0640 STACK_TEXT: fffff800`047d9d28 fffff800`02edfbe9 : 00000000`0000007f 00000000`00000008 00000000`80050033 00000000`000406f8 : nt!KeBugCheckEx fffff800`047d9d30 fffff800`02ede0b2 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiBugCheckDispatch+0x69 fffff800`047d9e70 fffff800`02e8329e : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : nt!KiDoubleFaultAbort+0xb2 fffff880`0757cf50 fffff880`01b1623a : 00000000`00000007 00000000`00000011 fffff880`0757e1a0 00000000`00000000 : nt!SeReportSecurityEventWithSubCategory+0x9e fffff880`0757d3e0 fffff880`01b169a1 : 00000000`0000002c 00000000`00000000 00000000`00003900 00000000`00003912 : tcpip!WfpAuditEventGeneral+0x1da fffff880`0757d860 fffff880`01b16c8c : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : tcpip!IndicateDropAudit+0x341 fffff880`0757dab0 fffff880`01b16e79 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`04514040 fffffa80`04514040 : tcpip!ShimIndicateDiscard+0xac fffff880`0757dd20 fffff880`01b628af : fffff880`0757e508 fffffa80`09c0c7b0 fffff880`0757e1a0 fffff880`0757ded8 : tcpip!WfpShimIndicateDiscardGeneral+0x99 fffff880`0757dd90 fffff880`01b2a6f8 : fffffa80`09b9f010 fffff880`0757ec18 fffff880`01c287a0 fffff880`0757ecf0 : tcpip!WfpAleClassify+0xdf fffff880`0757dde0 fffff880`01b29a88 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`09b9f010 00000000`00000000 : tcpip!WfpAlepAuthorizeReceive+0x818 fffff880`0757e410 fffff880`01b28a2c : 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`0000002c 00000000`0000000b fffffa80`073519a0 : tcpip!WfpAleAuthorizeReceive+0x2e8 fffff880`0757e6f0 fffff880`01b6245e : 00000000`00000000 fffff880`0757ebd0 fffff880`0757eb68 00000000`00000006 : tcpip!WfpAleConnectAcceptIndicate+0x29c fffff880`0757e7e0 fffff880`01b63087 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000001 00000000`0000bd01 00000000`00000000 : tcpip!ProcessALEForTransportPacket+0x5fe fffff880`0757ea50 fffff880`01b407d1 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 0000000b`00000000 00000000`00000010 : tcpip!WfpProcessInTransportStackIndication+0x7b7 fffff880`0757ef40 fffff880`01b15df9 : fffffa80`087e2440 fffffa80`0454e8d0 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000002 : tcpip!InetInspectReceiveDatagram+0x121 fffff880`0757f000 fffff880`01b15ac4 : fffffa80`07ace6e0 fffffa80`087e2440 fffffa80`07e6dd00 00000000`00000000 : tcpip!RawBeginMessageIndication+0x69 fffff880`0757f0d0 fffff880`01b1ddf2 : fffffa80`00000000 fffffa80`07ace6e0 fffffa80`00000006 fffff880`0757f398 : tcpip!RawDeliverDatagrams+0x124 fffff880`0757f290 fffff880`01b3b197 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`0454e820 fffffa80`0454e8d0 : tcpip!RawReceiveDatagrams+0x142 fffff880`0757f390 fffff880`01b3acaa : 00000000`00000000 fffff880`01c4f9a0 fffff880`0757f540 00000000`00000000 : tcpip!IppDeliverListToProtocol+0xf7 fffff880`0757f450 fffff880`01b3a4a4 : fffff880`018bd110 00000000`00000002 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : tcpip!IppProcessDeliverList+0x5a fffff880`0757f4f0 fffff880`01b1d17f : fffff880`01c4f9a0 fffff880`00000000 00000000`00000000 fffff880`0757f688 : tcpip!IppReceiveHeaderBatch+0x435 fffff880`0757f5d0 fffff880`01b1d7e4 : 00000000`00000001 fffffa80`087e2440 fffffa80`04540b48 00000000`00000000 : tcpip!IppLoopbackTransmit+0x38f fffff880`0757f680 fffff880`01b3f5d6 : 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`073519a0 fffffa80`07253700 00000000`00000000 : tcpip!IppLoopbackEnqueue+0x1f5 fffff880`0757f720 fffff880`01b3c3b7 : fffff880`01c4f9a0 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 fffff800`01c40800 : tcpip!IppFragmentPackets+0x796 fffff880`0757f840 fffff880`01b3e805 : fffff880`0757fba0 00000000`00140005 00000000`00000000 00000001`00000002 : tcpip!IppDispatchSendPacketHelper+0x87 fffff880`0757f900 fffff880`01b3cf43 : fffffa80`0398bd06 00000000`0000bd00 fffffa80`00000014 fffff880`00000000 : tcpip!IppPacketizeDatagrams+0x2d5 fffff880`0757fa20 fffff880`01b403ae : fffff880`07580230 fffff880`01cee307 fffff880`01c4f9a0 fffffa80`0398bdb0 : tcpip!IppSendDatagramsCommon+0x753 fffff880`0757fcf0 fffff880`01b19d55 : 00000000`00000000 fffff880`075806f0 fffff880`075806f0 fffff880`07580858 : tcpip!IpNlpSendDatagrams+0x3e fffff880`0757fd30 fffff880`01b422af : fffffa80`0735c010 6d61fea9`6bc00002 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 : tcpip!IppSlowSendDatagram+0x75 fffff880`0757fe30 fffff880`01b4804b : fffffa80`04560430 00000000`00000001 fffff880`07580b00 00000000`00003912 : tcpip!IpNlpFastSendDatagram+0xc3f fffff880`075801e0 fffff880`01b491de : 00000000`00001c7f 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000002 00000000`00000000 : tcpip!TcpTcbHeaderSend+0x47b fffff880`07580390 fffff880`01b697e6 : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 fffff880`01c49128 00000000`00000000 : tcpip!TcpTcbSend+0x88e fffff880`07580610 fffff880`01b3023d : 00000000`00000000 00000000`00000000 fffff880`03730000 00000000`00000001 : tcpip!TcpFlushDelay+0x316 fffff880`075806f0 fffff880`01b3003c : fffff880`075808f0 fffffa80`0398acf0 fffffa80`07c27350 fffffa80`03926b20 : tcpip!TcpDeliverInput+0x18d fffff880`075807f0 fffff880`01815d15 : fffffa80`03926b20 00000000`00000002 fffffa80`03926b20 fffffa80`09d17bb8 : tcpip!TcpRequestReceive+0x18c fffff880`075808b0 fffff880`0180cb8a : fffffa80`09d17bb8 00000000`00000002 fffffa80`03926b20 fffffa80`03d503e0 : tdx!TdxReceiveConnection+0x1f5 fffff880`07580950 fffff880`01602a06 : fffffa80`03d503e0 00000000`00000010 fffffa80`069c4860 fffffa80`09d17aa0 : tdx! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+0x47cf fffff880`075809d0 fffffa80`03d503e0 : 00000000`00000010 fffffa80`069c4860 fffffa80`09d17aa0 fffff880`063ee110 : avgtdia+0x2a06 fffff880`075809d8 00000000`00000010 : fffffa80`069c4860 fffffa80`09d17aa0 fffff880`063ee110 fffff880`063d6dc7 : 0xfffffa80`03d503e0 fffff880`075809e0 fffffa80`069c4860 : fffffa80`09d17aa0 fffff880`063ee110 fffff880`063d6dc7 fffffa80`08fde4f0 : 0x10 fffff880`075809e8 fffffa80`09d17aa0 : fffff880`063ee110 fffff880`063d6dc7 fffffa80`08fde4f0 fffff880`07580c70 : 0xfffffa80`069c4860 fffff880`075809f0 fffff880`063ee110 : fffff880`063d6dc7 fffffa80`08fde4f0 fffff880`07580c70 00000000`00000000 : 0xfffffa80`09d17aa0 fffff880`075809f8 fffff880`063d6dc7 : fffffa80`08fde4f0 fffff880`07580c70 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`09c62a20 : mrxsmb!WPP_GLOBAL_Control fffff880`07580a00 fffff880`01602d16 : fffffa80`09d17aa0 fffff800`0300b1de 00000000`c0000016 fffffa80`03936800 : mrxsmb!SmbCseDissociateMidFromBufferContextLite+0x207 fffff880`07580a50 fffffa80`09d17aa0 : fffff800`0300b1de 00000000`c0000016 fffffa80`03936800 fffff880`07580b30 : avgtdia+0x2d16 fffff880`07580a58 fffff800`0300b1de : 00000000`c0000016 fffffa80`03936800 fffff880`07580b30 fffff880`016035d5 : 0xfffffa80`09d17aa0 fffff880`07580a60 fffffa80`096f8f40 : fffffa80`00000000 00000000`00004000 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`09c62950 : nt!ExAllocatePoolWithTag+0xfe fffff880`07580b50 fffffa80`00000000 : 00000000`00004000 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`09c62950 fffffa80`03a20cb0 : 0xfffffa80`096f8f40 fffff880`07580b58 00000000`00004000 : 00000000`00000000 fffffa80`09c62950 fffffa80`03a20cb0 fffff880`063df875 : 0xfffffa80`00000000 fffff880`07580b60 00000000`00000000 : fffffa80`09c62950 fffffa80`03a20cb0 fffff880`063df875 fffffa80`03a20cb0 : 0x4000 STACK_COMMAND: kb FOLLOWUP_IP: tcpip!WfpAuditEventGeneral+1da fffff880`01b1623a 33c0 xor eax,eax SYMBOL_STACK_INDEX: 4 SYMBOL_NAME: tcpip!WfpAuditEventGeneral+1da FOLLOWUP_NAME: MachineOwner MODULE_NAME: tcpip IMAGE_NAME: tcpip.sys DEBUG_FLR_IMAGE_TIMESTAMP: 4ce79420 FAILURE_BUCKET_ID: X64_0x7f_8_tcpip!WfpAuditEventGeneral+1da BUCKET_ID: X64_0x7f_8_tcpip!WfpAuditEventGeneral+1da May possibly be a network adapter driver which you may want to consider updating.
athurx.sys 1/4/2010 Atheros AR9271 Wireless Network Adapter from here ATHEROS drivers for Microsoft Windows (Atheros?????)
and or
Rt64win7.sys 9/27/2011 slightly newer one here Realtek
Good Luck
EDIT: Sorry forgot.... alternative to AVG =

I recently have begun having constant BSODs when playing any games on my system. They just started this weekend, besides an occasional crash here and there in the past. Now, I can't go more than 20-30 minutes of playing any game without it crashing. All of the dmp files seem to point to ntoskrnl.exe.

I have tried all sorts of troubleshooting, with the exeption of a full memtest. I ran a quick test and let it run through 2 passthroughs with no errors, I am going to run a full overnight test tonight.

The only thing I did before all of the crashes began was to do some cleanup on my system, as I was having audio popping issues with my headphones. So, I uninstalled various audio/video codec packages and video players (DIVX, VLC, etc.). I ran DriverScanner and upgraded all drivers for everything it found, and I have uninstalled and reinstalled my video and sound card drivers.

I am attaching all of the logs.

EDIT: Just had another BSOD, this time related to nvlddmkm.sys, which I believe has to do with my video card. Attached Files Seven (2.39 MB, 53 views) Last edited by pktgumby; 03-26-2012 at 01:28 AM. Share Share this post on Digg Technorati Twitter
Operating System Windowx 7 Professional 64-bit
Computer Type Custom built
OS Service Pack 1
Internet Explorer Version 9
DirectX Version 11
CPU Type and Speed Intel i5 2500K
Motherboard Chipset Gigabyte Z68
Video Card Type and Speed GeForce GTX 570
Sound Card Creative Audigy 2
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Join Date Mar 2010 Posts 1,946 Re: Newly started BSOD - seems to be related to ntoskrnl Hi pktgumby and Welcome to The Forum.

Usual causes: Device driver, memory, kernel

Your latest dump file lists ntkrnlmp.exe as the probable cause.
This is a Windows System file and for it to be the cause of your crash is highly unlikely.
Old and incompatible drivers can and do cause issues with Windows 7, often giving false error codes.
Random stop codes can often indicate hardware issues.

As a Priority:

EtronHub3.sys Mon Jul 25 22:30:59 2011
EtronXHCI.sys Mon Jul 25 22:30:56 2011 Update to Etron USB 3.0 v109 Drivers. This is a Gigabyte Mobo drivers link, just in case your Mobo Mfr. is a bit slow on the uptake!! Older drivers have caused issues.

gdrv.sys Fri Mar 13 03:22:29 2009 Gigabyte Easy Saver. If you cannot update this then uninstall it. Gigabyte.

lmimirr.sys Tue Apr 10 23:32:45 2007
LMIRfsDriver.sys Mon Jul 14 17:26:56 2008 LogMeIn/RemotelyAnywhere. Has known issues with Windows 7. Update or Uninstall!!
RaInfo.sys Fri Jan 04 18:57:14 2008

Drivers that pre-date Windows 7. Update:

COMMONFX.DLL Mon Apr 09 14:08:38 2007
ctaud2k.sys Thu Mar 20 08:19:33 2008
CTAUDFX.DLL Mon Apr 09 14:08:39 2007
ctoss2k.sys Thu Mar 20 08:17:40 2008
ctprxy2k.sys Thu Mar 20 08:19:34 2008 Creative Drivers.
CTSBLFX.DLL Mon Apr 09 14:08:42 2007
ctsfm2k.sys Thu Mar 20 08:17:29 2008
emupia2k.sys Thu Mar 20 08:17:22 2008
hap17v2k.sys Thu Mar 20 08:18:18 2008

GEARAspiWDM.sys Mon May 18 13:17:04 2009 Gear Software CD-ROM Class Filter Driver v4.019.1 (Oct 2011). Also loads with iTunes

Drivers with Updates:

mvs91xx.sys Mon Mar 07 02:13:40 2011
mvxxmm.sys Mon Mar 07 02:13:21 2011 Marvell Yukon networking (Windows 7 & Server 2008 R2 20/01/2012 v11.45.3.3) Choose the right set for your system, 32 or 64-bit.

Rt64win7.sys Fri Jun 10 07:33:15 2011 Realtek PCIe GBE Family Controller v7.050 If you're unsure about manually installing drivers then choose the Win7 and WinServer 2008 R2 Auto Installation Program (SID:1483XXX) option to download.

Bugcheck Analysis: Code: ******************************************************************************* * * * Bugcheck Analysis * * * ******************************************************************************* Use !analyze -v to get detailed debugging information. BugCheck 1A, {41287, 1, 0, 0} Probably caused by : ntkrnlmp.exe ( nt! ?? ::FNODOBFM::`string'+45a35 ) Followup: MachineOwner
Drivers: Code: fffff880`04800000 fffff880`0483e000 1394ohci 1394ohci.sys Sat Nov 20 10:44:56 2010 (4CE7A6A8) fffff880`00d67000 fffff880`00dbe000 ACPI ACPI.sys Sat Nov 20 09:19:16 2010 (4CE79294) fffff880`01932000 fffff880`019bb000 afd afd.sys Wed Dec 28 03:59:20 2011 (4EFA9418) fffff880`0f685000 fffff880`0f69b000 AgileVpn AgileVpn.sys Tue Jul 14 01:10:24 2009 (4A5BCCF0) fffff880`015da000 fffff880`015e5000 amdxata amdxata.sys Fri Mar 19 16:18:18 2010 (4BA3A3CA) fffff880`08671000 fffff880`0867c000 asyncmac asyncmac.sys Tue Jul 14 01:10:13 2009 (4A5BCCE5) fffff880`013e7000 fffff880`013f0000 atapi atapi.sys Tue Jul 14 00:19:47 2009 (4A5BC113) fffff880`01000000 fffff880`0102a000 ataport ataport.SYS Sat Nov 20 09:19:15 2010 (4CE79293) fffff880`04433000 fffff880`0443a000 Beep Beep.SYS Tue Jul 14 01:00:13 2009 (4A5BCA8D) fffff880`03360000 fffff880`03371000 blbdrive blbdrive.sys Tue Jul 14 00:35:59 2009 (4A5BC4DF) fffff880`07b25000 fffff880`07b43000 bowser bowser.sys Wed Feb 23 04:55:04 2011 (4D649328) fffff960`006f0000 fffff960`00717000 cdd cdd.dll Sat Nov 20 12:55:34 2010 (4CE7C546) fffff880`04400000 fffff880`0442a000 cdrom cdrom.sys Sat Nov 20 09:19:20 2010 (4CE79298) fffff880`00e44000 fffff880`00f04000 CI CI.dll Sat Nov 20 13:12:36 2010 (4CE7C944) fffff880`01f76000 fffff880`01fa6000 CLASSPNP CLASSPNP.SYS Sat Nov 20 09:19:23 2010 (4CE7929B) fffff880`00d09000 fffff880`00d67000 CLFS CLFS.SYS Tue Jul 14 00:19:57 2009 (4A5BC11D) fffff880`018a5000 fffff880`01917000 cng cng.sys Thu Nov 17 04:23:17 2011 (4EC48C35) fffff880`05db6000 fffff880`05de1000 COMMONFX COMMONFX.DLL Mon Apr 09 14:08:38 2007 (461A3AD6) fffff880`04847000 fffff880`04857000 CompositeBus CompositeBus.sys Sat Nov 20 10:33:17 2010 (4CE7A3ED) fffff880`072ab000 fffff880`072b9000 crashdmp crashdmp.sys Tue Jul 14 01:01:01 2009 (4A5BCABD) fffff880`032bf000 fffff880`03342000 csc csc.sys Sat Nov 20 09:27:12 2010 (4CE79470) fffff880`112cd000 fffff880`11372780 ctaud2k ctaud2k.sys Thu Mar 20 08:19:33 2008 (47E21E15) fffff880`072d8000 fffff880`07387000 CTAUDFX CTAUDFX.DLL Mon Apr 09 14:08:39 2007 (461A3AD7) fffff880`049bc000 fffff880`049ed000 ctoss2k ctoss2k.sys Thu Mar 20 08:17:40 2008 (47E21DA4) fffff880`10443000 fffff880`1044b000 ctprxy2k ctprxy2k.sys Thu Mar 20 08:19:34 2008 (47E21E16) fffff880`07200000 fffff880`072ab000 CTSBLFX CTSBLFX.DLL Mon Apr 09 14:08:42 2007 (461A3ADA) fffff880`06000000 fffff880`06038000 ctsfm2k ctsfm2k.sys Thu Mar 20 08:17:29 2008 (47E21D99) fffff880`03342000 fffff880`03360000 dfsc dfsc.sys Sat Nov 20 09:26:31 2010 (4CE79447) fffff880`032b0000 fffff880`032bf000 discache discache.sys Tue Jul 14 00:37:18 2009 (4A5BC52E) fffff880`01f60000 fffff880`01f76000 disk disk.sys Tue Jul 14 00:19:57 2009 (4A5BC11D) fffff880`113b0000 fffff880`113d2000 drmk drmk.sys Tue Jul 14 02:01:25 2009 (4A5BD8E5) fffff880`072b9000 fffff880`072cc000 dump_dumpfve dump_dumpfve.sys Tue Jul 14 00:21:51 2009 (4A5BC18F) fffff880`0443a000 fffff880`047dc000 dump_iaStor dump_iaStor.sys Fri May 20 17:52:24 2011 (4DD69C48) fffff880`073e9000 fffff880`073f5000 Dxapi Dxapi.sys Tue Jul 14 00:38:28 2009 (4A5BC574) fffff880`0485e000 fffff880`04952000 dxgkrnl dxgkrnl.sys Sat Nov 20 09:50:50 2010 (4CE799FA) fffff880`04952000 fffff880`04998000 dxgmms1 dxgmms1.sys Sat Nov 20 09:49:53 2010 (4CE799C1) fffff880`061a6000 fffff880`061f0000 emupia2k emupia2k.sys Thu Mar 20 08:17:22 2008 (47E21D92) fffff880`05ca5000 fffff880`05cb2e80 EtronHub3 EtronHub3.sys Mon Jul 25 22:30:59 2011 (4E2DE093) fffff880`113d2000 fffff880`113e5500 EtronXHCI EtronXHCI.sys Mon Jul 25 22:30:56 2011 (4E2DE090) fffff880`0144c000 fffff880`01460000 fileinfo fileinfo.sys Tue Jul 14 00:34:25 2009 (4A5BC481) fffff880`01400000 fffff880`0144c000 fltmgr fltmgr.sys Sat Nov 20 09:19:24 2010 (4CE7929C) fffff880`01928000 fffff880`01932000 Fs_Rec Fs_Rec.sys Tue Jul 14 00:19:45 2009 (4A5BC111) fffff880`01f26000 fffff880`01f60000 fvevol fvevol.sys Sat Nov 20 09:24:06 2010 (4CE793B6) fffff880`01e19000 fffff880`01e63000 fwpkclnt fwpkclnt.sys Sat Nov 20 09:21:37 2010 (4CE79321) fffff880`08773000 fffff880`0877c000 gdrv gdrv.sys Fri Mar 13 03:22:29 2009 (49B9D175) fffff880`113f2000 fffff880`113ff000 GEARAspiWDM GEARAspiWDM.sys Mon May 18 13:17:04 2009 (4A1151C0) fffff880`0603f000 fffff880`061a6000 ha10kx2k ha10kx2k.sys Thu Mar 20 08:18:06 2008 (47E21DBE) fffff800`03402000 fffff800`0344b000 hal hal.dll Sat Nov 20 13:00:25 2010 (4CE7C669) fffff880`05cb5000 fffff880`05cf3000 hap17v2k hap17v2k.sys Thu Mar 20 08:18:18 2008 (47E21DCA) fffff880`04998000 fffff880`049bc000 HDAudBus HDAudBus.sys Sat Nov 20 10:43:42 2010 (4CE7A65E) fffff880`05cf3000 fffff880`05d4f000 HdAudio HdAudio.sys Sat Nov 20 10:44:23 2010 (4CE7A687) fffff880`11255000 fffff880`11266000 HECIx64 HECIx64.sys Wed Oct 20 00:33:43 2010 (4CBE2AD7) fffff880`073c7000 fffff880`073e0000 HIDCLASS HIDCLASS.SYS Sat Nov 20 10:43:49 2010 (4CE7A665) fffff880`073e0000 fffff880`073e8080 HIDPARSE HIDPARSE.SYS Tue Jul 14 01:06:17 2009 (4A5BCBF9) fffff880`073b9000 fffff880`073c7000 hidusb hidusb.sys Sat Nov 20 10:43:49 2010 (4CE7A665) fffff880`07a5c000 fffff880`07b25000 HTTP HTTP.sys Sat Nov 20 09:24:30 2010 (4CE793CE) fffff880`01f1d000 fffff880`01f26000 hwpolicy hwpolicy.sys Sat Nov 20 09:18:54 2010 (4CE7927E) fffff880`01045000 fffff880`013e7000 iaStor iaStor.sys Fri May 20 17:52:24 2011 (4DD69C48) fffff880`10452000 fffff880`11254f80 igdkmd64 igdkmd64.sys Tue Feb 14 18:47:30 2012 (4F3AAC42) fffff880`03397000 fffff880`033ad000 intelppm intelppm.sys Tue Jul 14 00:19:25 2009 (4A5BC0FD) fffff880`0f69b000 fffff880`0f6aa000 kbdclass kbdclass.sys Tue Jul 14 00:19:50 2009 (4A5BC116) fffff880`05c14000 fffff880`05c22000 kbdhid kbdhid.sys Sat Nov 20 10:33:25 2010 (4CE7A3F5) fffff800`00ba2000 fffff800`00bac000 kdcom kdcom.dll Sat Feb 05 16:52:49 2011 (4D4D8061) fffff880`10400000 fffff880`10443000 ks ks.sys Sat Nov 20 10:33:23 2010 (4CE7A3F3) fffff880`017cb000 fffff880`017e6000 ksecdd ksecdd.sys Thu Nov 17 03:48:13 2011 (4EC483FD) fffff880`01a60000 fffff880`01a8b000 ksecpkg ksecpkg.sys Thu Nov 17 04:23:44 2011 (4EC48C50) fffff880`1044b000 fffff880`10450200 ksthunk ksthunk.sys Tue Jul 14 01:00:19 2009 (4A5BCA93) fffff880`049fb000 fffff880`049fed80 LGBusEnum LGBusEnum.sys Tue Nov 24 01:36:48 2009 (4B0B38B0) fffff880`087ad000 fffff880`087af480 LGVirHid LGVirHid.sys Tue Nov 24 01:36:48 2009 (4B0B38B0) fffff880`05de1000 fffff880`05df7000 LHidFilt LHidFilt.Sys Fri Sep 02 07:23:09 2011 (4E60764D) fffff880`05c30000 fffff880`05c45000 lltdio lltdio.sys Tue Jul 14 01:08:50 2009 (4A5BCC92) fffff880`04857000 fffff880`0485e000 lmimirr lmimirr.sys Tue Apr 10 23:32:45 2007 (461C108D) fffff880`07a17000 fffff880`07a2a000 LMIRfsDriver LMIRfsDriver.sys Mon Jul 14 17:26:56 2008 (487B7E50) fffff880`05c00000 fffff880`05c14000 LMouFilt LMouFilt.Sys Fri Sep 02 07:23:15 2011 (4E607653) fffff880`01600000 fffff880`01623000 luafv luafv.sys Tue Jul 14 00:26:13 2009 (4A5BC295) fffff880`00ca6000 fffff880`00cf5000 mcupdate_GenuineIntel mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll Sat Nov 20 13:03:51 2010 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2010 (4CE7A864) fffff880`0182f000 fffff880`0183e000 netbios netbios.sys Tue Jul 14 01:09:26 2009 (4A5BCCB6) fffff880`019bb000 fffff880`01a00000 netbt netbt.sys Sat Nov 20 09:23:18 2010 (4CE79386) fffff880`01a00000 fffff880`01a60000 NETIO NETIO.SYS Sat Nov 20 09:23:13 2010 (4CE79381) fffff880`0875b000 fffff880`08773000 NisDrvWFP NisDrvWFP.sys Wed Apr 06 21:08:53 2011 (4D9CC855) fffff880`01bb9000 fffff880`01bca000 Npfs Npfs.SYS Tue Jul 14 00:19:48 2009 (4A5BC114) fffff880`03299000 fffff880`032a5000 nsiproxy nsiproxy.sys Tue Jul 14 00:21:02 2009 (4A5BC15E) fffff800`0344b000 fffff800`03a33000 nt ntkrnlmp.exe Sat Nov 19 12:15:14 2011 (4EC79DD2) fffff880`01628000 fffff880`017cb000 Ntfs Ntfs.sys Fri Mar 11 03:39:39 2011 (4D79997B) fffff880`0442a000 fffff880`04433000 Null Null.SYS Tue Jul 14 00:19:37 2009 (4A5BC109) fffff880`07387000 fffff880`073b9000 nvhda64v nvhda64v.sys Tue Jan 17 12:45:46 2012 (4F156D7A) fffff880`0f6b0000 fffff880`103ce000 nvlddmkm nvlddmkm.sys Wed Feb 29 18:04:52 2012 (4F4E68C4) fffff880`01809000 fffff880`0182f000 pacer pacer.sys Sat Nov 20 10:52:18 2010 (4CE7A862) fffff880`00e0d000 fffff880`00e22000 partmgr partmgr.sys Sat Nov 20 09:20:00 2010 (4CE792C0) fffff880`00fca000 fffff880`00ffd000 pci pci.sys Sat Nov 20 09:19:11 2010 (4CE7928F) fffff880`01035000 fffff880`01045000 PCIIDEX PCIIDEX.SYS Tue Jul 14 00:19:48 2009 (4A5BC114) fffff880`01917000 fffff880`01928000 pcw pcw.sys Tue Jul 14 00:19:27 2009 (4A5BC0FF) fffff880`08443000 fffff880`084e9000 peauth peauth.sys Tue Jul 14 02:01:19 2009 (4A5BD8DF) fffff880`11373000 fffff880`113b0000 portcls portcls.sys Tue Jul 14 01:06:27 2009 (4A5BCC03) fffff880`00cf5000 fffff880`00d09000 PSHED PSHED.dll Tue Jul 14 02:32:23 2009 (4A5BE027) fffff880`07a10000 fffff880`07a17000 RaInfo RaInfo.sys Fri Jan 04 18:57:14 2008 (477E818A) fffff880`103ce000 fffff880`103f2000 rasl2tp rasl2tp.sys Sat Nov 20 10:52:34 2010 (4CE7A872) fffff880`033dc000 fffff880`033f7000 raspppoe raspppoe.sys Tue Jul 14 01:10:17 2009 (4A5BCCE9) fffff880`03200000 fffff880`03221000 raspptp raspptp.sys Sat Nov 20 10:52:31 2010 (4CE7A86F) fffff880`03221000 fffff880`0323b000 rassstp rassstp.sys Tue Jul 14 01:10:25 2009 (4A5BCCF1) fffff880`03248000 fffff880`03299000 rdbss rdbss.sys Sat Nov 20 09:27:51 2010 (4CE79497) fffff880`103f2000 fffff880`103fd000 rdpbus rdpbus.sys Tue Jul 14 01:17:46 2009 (4A5BCEAA) fffff880`047f4000 fffff880`047fd000 RDPCDD RDPCDD.sys Tue Jul 14 01:16:34 2009 (4A5BCE62) fffff880`01ff3000 fffff880`01ffc000 rdpencdd rdpencdd.sys Tue Jul 14 01:16:34 2009 (4A5BCE62) fffff880`01ab0000 fffff880`01ab9000 rdprefmp rdprefmp.sys Tue Jul 14 01:16:35 2009 (4A5BCE63) fffff880`01ed1000 fffff880`01f0b000 rdyboost rdyboost.sys Sat Nov 20 09:43:10 2010 (4CE7982E) fffff880`047dc000 fffff880`047f4000 rspndr rspndr.sys Tue Jul 14 01:08:50 2009 (4A5BCC92) fffff880`0f600000 fffff880`0f685000 Rt64win7 Rt64win7.sys Fri Jun 10 07:33:15 2011 (4DF1BAAB) fffff880`084e9000 fffff880`084f4000 secdrv secdrv.SYS Wed Sep 13 14:18:38 2006 (4508052E) fffff880`113e6000 fffff880`113f2000 serenum serenum.sys Tue Jul 14 01:00:33 2009 (4A5BCAA1) fffff880`0183e000 fffff880`0185b000 serial serial.sys Tue Jul 14 01:00:40 2009 (4A5BCAA8) fffff880`01ec7000 fffff880`01ed1000 speedfan speedfan.sys Fri Mar 18 16:08:46 2011 (4D83838E) fffff880`01ebf000 fffff880`01ec7000 spldr spldr.sys Mon May 11 17:56:27 2009 (4A0858BB) fffff880`086c3000 fffff880`0875b000 srv srv.sys Fri Apr 29 04:06:06 2011 (4DBA2B1E) fffff880`08537000 fffff880`085a0000 srv2 srv2.sys Fri Apr 29 04:05:46 2011 (4DBA2B0A) fffff880`084f4000 fffff880`08525000 srvnet srvnet.sys Fri Apr 29 04:05:35 2011 (4DBA2AFF) fffff880`0156f000 fffff880`015d2000 storport storport.sys Fri Mar 11 04:30:23 2011 (4D79A55F) fffff880`049f9000 fffff880`049fa480 swenum swenum.sys Tue Jul 14 01:00:18 2009 (4A5BCA92) fffff880`01c15000 fffff880`01e19000 tcpip tcpip.sys Thu Sep 29 04:43:04 2011 (4E83E948) fffff880`08525000 fffff880`08537000 tcpipreg tcpipreg.sys Sat Nov 20 10:51:48 2010 (4CE7A844) 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usbprint usbprint.sys Tue Jul 14 01:38:18 2009 (4A5BD37A) fffff880`05d6c000 fffff880`05d7d000 usbscan usbscan.sys Tue Jul 14 01:35:32 2009 (4A5BD2D4) fffff880`05d7d000 fffff880`05d98000 USBSTOR USBSTOR.SYS Fri Mar 11 04:37:16 2011 (4D79A6FC) fffff880`00e00000 fffff880`00e0d000 vdrvroot vdrvroot.sys Tue Jul 14 01:01:31 2009 (4A5BCADB) fffff880`01fe5000 fffff880`01ff3000 vga vga.sys Tue Jul 14 00:38:47 2009 (4A5BC587) fffff880`01a8b000 fffff880`01ab0000 VIDEOPRT VIDEOPRT.SYS Tue Jul 14 00:38:51 2009 (4A5BC58B) fffff880`01e63000 fffff880`01e73000 vmstorfl vmstorfl.sys Sat Nov 20 09:57:30 2010 (4CE79B8A) fffff880`00e22000 fffff880`00e37000 volmgr volmgr.sys Sat Nov 20 09:19:28 2010 (4CE792A0) fffff880`00c00000 fffff880`00c5c000 volmgrx volmgrx.sys Sat Nov 20 09:20:43 2010 (4CE792EB) fffff880`01e73000 fffff880`01ebf000 volsnap volsnap.sys Sat Nov 20 09:20:08 2010 (4CE792C8) fffff880`0185b000 fffff880`01876000 wanarp wanarp.sys Sat Nov 20 10:52:36 2010 (4CE7A874) fffff880`01c00000 fffff880`01c10000 watchdog watchdog.sys Tue Jul 14 00:37:35 2009 (4A5BC53F) fffff880`00f04000 fffff880`00fa8000 Wdf01000 Wdf01000.sys Tue Jul 14 00:22:07 2009 (4A5BC19F) fffff880`00fa8000 fffff880`00fb7000 WDFLDR WDFLDR.SYS Tue Jul 14 00:19:54 2009 (4A5BC11A) fffff880`01800000 fffff880`01809000 wfplwf wfplwf.sys Tue Jul 14 01:09:26 2009 (4A5BCCB6) fffff960`00050000 fffff960`00365000 win32k win32k.sys Fri Feb 03 04:34:05 2012 (4F2B63BD) fffff880`0483e000 fffff880`04847000 wmiacpi wmiacpi.sys Tue Jul 14 00:31:02 2009 (4A5BC3B6) fffff880`00fb7000 fffff880`00fc0000 WMILIB WMILIB.SYS Tue Jul 14 00:19:51 2009 (4A5BC117) fffff880`014be000 fffff880`014df000 WudfPf WudfPf.sys Sat Nov 20 10:42:44 2010 (4CE7A624) fffff880`0877c000 fffff880`087ad000 WUDFRd WUDFRd.sys Sat Nov 20 10:43:32 2010 (4CE7A654) Unloaded modules: fffff880`08600000 fffff880`08671000 spsys.sys Timestamp: unavailable (00000000) Checksum: 00000000 ImageSize: 00071000 fffff880`01fa6000 fffff880`01fb4000 crashdmp.sys Timestamp: unavailable (00000000) Checksum: 00000000 ImageSize: 0000E000 fffff880`0443f000 fffff880`047e1000 dump_iaStor. Timestamp: unavailable (00000000) Checksum: 00000000 ImageSize: 003A2000 fffff880`047e1000 fffff880`047f4000 dump_dumpfve Timestamp: unavailable (00000000) Checksum: 00000000 ImageSize: 00013000 fffff880`05cf3000 fffff880`05da1000 ctac32k.sys Timestamp: unavailable (00000000) Checksum: 00000000 ImageSize: 000AE000 Let us know how it goes. If you get further problems with blue screens, attach your new dump files and details and we'll move on from there.


By Joe Wilcox, Betanews

The other night, I got quite the shock. A good friend, who is a Windows enthusiast and IT administrator/consultant, informed me that he had dumped Windows 7 for Ubuntu. I didn't see that coming. For one, he's a Windows fan. For another, I would rate Windows 7 as nearly Microsoft's best operating system ever (sorry, even with the driver problems, Windows NT 4 still ranks as my fav; for its time -- 1996ish). My buddy contacted me by Skype, and I kept the transcript which I offer here with his permission.

Many of my questions were deliberately pointed, for three reasons. 1) As with all interviews, I strive for impartiality. 2) This friend, whom I'll call IT Guy for this post, is a good buddy. I know his personality enough to press hard about certain things. 3) I don't want to give some of Betanews' more rabid commenters cause to accuse of bias against Microsoft or Windows (I have none, but they accuse anyway). Hey, I'm just as surprised as you about my buddy's Ubuntu conversion. He had tried Linux years ago and didn't really like the experience, particularly because of driver problems and deficient or missing applications.

I don't see that IT Guy gave very good technical reasons for abandoning Windows 7. He mostly states what I consider to be perception problems -- that there are daily updates (which isn't the case), that there are massive security problems (because of the number of patches) and that Microsoft's anti-piracy mechanisms are harassing. These are actually emotional reasons, which is why I am posting the conversation. Even for experienced users, a purchase decision is still an emotional one. My friend didn't feel good about Windows 7. Microsoft doesn't want long-time loyal users like IT Guy going rogue and switching to Linux or Mac OS X.

With that introduction, I present the conversation, which has been edited in four places for flow (We asked and answered some questions out of sequence). The opening question reflects IT Guy contacting me by Skype, where my username isn't my real name. So he wasn't initially sure he was skyping me.

IT Guy: That you, Mr. Joe?
Joe Wilcox: Hey, bud. What's shakin?
IT Guy: Same ole same ole! And you?
Joe Wilcox: Working. Caught me at bad time.
IT Guy: I've tossed Windows7 Ultimate!
IT Guy: Ahhhh. sorry....
Joe Wilcox: Oh?
Joe Wilcox: Wait.
Joe Wilcox: Do tell.
Joe Wilcox: Tossed for what?
IT Guy: Yeah, moved back to Linux. Using Ubuntu.
Joe Wilcox: Because?
IT Guy: Very satisfied, very impressed!
IT Guy: Couldn't keep Win running with any speed.
Joe Wilcox: What about drivers? Software?
IT Guy: That's with 8 GB of RAM.
Joe Wilcox: Really. What's the system config again?
IT Guy: Everything including video if you want to vid chat.
Joe Wilcox: I can't vid chat now. Later perhaps.
IT Guy: It is a truly amazing system. Especially with the spec's I'm running.
Joe Wilcox: But give me some more details. Start with complete system specs.
IT Guy: Intel quad i7 proc.
IT Guy: 8 GB Ram
Joe Wilcox: Laptop?
IT Guy: Yes
Joe Wilcox: Just spell out specs in one sentence.
IT Guy: 500 GB HD
IT Guy: sorry
Joe Wilcox: Model and manufacturer too.
IT Guy: HP Pavilion DV6T. 1 GB dedicated vid ram, and the rest listed above. Came with win7 home, upgraded to Ultimate. Wireless internal of course.
Joe Wilcox: You ran Ultimate for how long?
IT Guy: Now running Ubuntu Desktop 10.04 Lucid Lynx. I ran Ultimate for about 3 mos.
Joe Wilcox: Why so little time?
IT Guy: Just got tired of fighting with it all the time with rights issues and such. A patch an hour somedays? Come on...
Joe Wilcox: What kinds of rights issues?
IT Guy: I've got some stuff I never want to lose, and with Windows I wasn't feeling warm and fuzzy anymore.
Joe Wilcox: Because?
IT Guy: Anytime installing anything from software to copying doc's localy folder to folder...
IT Guy: I understand some of that but come on. I upgraded to Ultimate to get access to some of my old db files created on XP.
Joe Wilcox: You couldn't access them?
IT Guy: No. Windows 7 Ultimate is the only version that will.
Joe Wilcox: Did you try and identify why? Use Microsoft Knowledgebase or forums?
IT Guy: They are up front about that though.
IT Guy: The KB for sure. Most didn't have the time of day.
Joe Wilcox: What about performance? Powerful system, should be plenty of oomph for Windows 7 Ultimate.
IT Guy: Yes it was at first. I could never keep it that way short of doing a sys restore.
Joe Wilcox: So what about performance?
IT Guy: Oddly enough, I came here from the Ubuntu forums
Joe Wilcox: Came here, meaning where?
IT Guy: A refreshing change from MS. Not only is the OS free, if you're kind in your approach on the forums, it's almost like free tech support as well!
IT Guy: I highly recommend Ubuntu.
IT Guy: In case you couldn't tell.
IT Guy: Been using it about a month.
Joe Wilcox: You still haven't answered question about Windows 7 Ultimate performance.
IT Guy: With NO problems!
IT Guy: The performance degraded as time went by.
Joe Wilcox: How so?
IT Guy:: I have no explanation why. That was the most frustrating part of the whole thing.
Joe Wilcox: What makes you sure Ubuntu won't degrade in another two months?
IT Guy: I consider myself, if not a 'computer guru', then pretty darn close.
IT Guy: With Linux today you can monitor and control everything the system is doing.
Joe Wilcox: So let's discuss that. You have how much IT experience?
Joe Wilcox: You've managed systems?
Joe Wilcox: Meaning, as I recall, your experience is broader than just an end user.
IT Guy: Started my first programming classes in 1983. Been working in the industry in one way or another ever since. You know that.
IT Guy: Went to Devry or however they spell it.
IT Guy: Ended up as a full time employee for my COBOL professor.
Joe Wilcox: OK. How about you give me three things you liked and also disliked about Windows 7 Ultimate?
IT Guy: It was pretty.
IT Guy: It was shallow!
IT Guy: Reminded me too much of a cheap woman! hehe
Joe Wilcox: Are you describing Windows or your first date?
IT Guy: Liked the new Aurora interface and how fast my games played.
Joe Wilcox: Cheap woman as in easy to get or hard to please?
IT Guy: I disliked that it has so many security flaws. There were literally patches per hour some day!
Joe Wilcox: Microsoft releases patches on second Tuesday of the month. There couldn't have been that many.
IT Guy: No stable OS should have to be updated continuously in order for the end user to have some sense of security.
Joe Wilcox: Apple regularly updates Mac OS X.
IT Guy: True enough.
Joe Wilcox: What about Ubuntu?
IT Guy: If I want the update yes.
Joe Wilcox: How often? More often in one month than Windows?
IT Guy: My kernel is protected and I only update it in the event of hardware change.
IT Guy: I've updated the kernel once since install.
Joe Wilcox: The Windows 64-bit kernel is pretty hardened. Did you run 64-bit Ultimate?
IT Guy: Yes I did.
Joe Wilcox: Could it be Microsoft is just more proactive about security?
Joe Wilcox: Crime goes up after cities put more cops on the street. It's a well-documented occurance. More cops means more crime recorded not an increase in actual crimes.
IT Guy: That is a possibility. I was thinking about it more from the disgusted end user perspective of 'what is so wrong that I have to have all these updates' feeling.
Joe Wilcox: So the updates generated fear -- that Windows isn't safe enough?
IT Guy: I just figured that as loaded up hardware wise as this laptop is, that I shouldn't have noticed any slowdown, or at the most it should have been imperceptible.
IT Guy: It wasn't so much a fear factor thing though it did weigh on me at times.
Joe Wilcox: Got it. OK, now to those three things you didn't like most about Windows 7 Ultimate.
IT Guy: The slow down, the security, and having it act like I was a new user every time I tried to do something at the sys level.
Joe Wilcox: OK. So what about Ubuntu? What three things do you like most or dislike most?
IT Guy: I like most the fact that when I turn on the laptop, I'm able to be editing my website live, in about a minute flat!
Joe Wilcox: How do the bootup times compare?
IT Guy: Three weeks later I like that it still is booting just as fast.
IT Guy: Ubuntu=1 minute up and able to start an app.
IT Guy: Windows 7 Ultimate=At the end about 4 and a half minutes before you could try to start an app..
Joe Wilcox: That's from bootup? What about sleep? I find Windows 7 Ulitmate to resume quickly on a much less powerful system than yours.
IT Guy: Ahhh, never used sleep.
Joe Wilcox: Really? I assume most everyone uses sleep.
IT Guy: I can't give you a good answer there because I just never used it.
IT Guy: I now do! Took Ubuntu for me to 'discover' the value of sleep mode.
Joe Wilcox: My experience is about 10-15 seconds from sleep.
IT Guy: With Win7?
Joe Wilcox: Yes.
IT Guy: Wow.
Joe Wilcox: That's hardcase scenario -- using Outlook. Outlook was super slow on Vista.
Joe Wilcox: From sleep.
IT Guy: Now I'm going to have to reinstall and look at it again. I used it hard as well. Outlook, Word, Access and typically a media player app of some kind running.
Joe Wilcox: What else do you like about Ubuntu? How is the UI and drivers?
IT Guy: The UI for Ubuntu is on a level with OS X.
Joe Wilcox: That's good?
IT Guy: As far as I'm concerned, it's the best, most intuitive UI I've ever had. The drivers are superlative and run everything very well.
IT Guy: I'm using Gnome, by the way.
IT Guy: KDE was just to much like windows for me. Seemed like there were two ways to do everything.
Joe Wilcox: OK. Driver installation compares how with Windows 7 Ultimate?
IT Guy: Ahhhh.
IT Guy: Are you talking initial install? Of Linux?
Joe Wilcox: Both for drivers.
Joe Wilcox: What if a device doesn't work? How easily can you get a new driver?
IT Guy: At present, I've not come across anything hardware wise that hasn't worked. I have intentionally reinstalled the nVidia drivers with no problems or issues.
Joe Wilcox: What about applications?
Joe Wilcox: Can you watch DVD movies? Make home movies, etc.?
Joe Wilcox: Microsoft has Windows Live Essentials, and there are plenty of good third-party apps. Apple has iLife and its pro products.
IT Guy: All my writing is done with OpenOffice, I watch movies with VLC, I've been happily burning my DVD's with Brassero, and so on and on...
IT Guy: All of the apps I use are free. Part of the OpenSource community.
Joe Wilcox: You do some photography. Have you got anything comparable to Adobe Lightroom?
IT Guy: I am using Gimp for all my photo needs.
Joe Wilcox: That's enough? Really?
IT Guy: Matter of fact the photo used on my twitter account was imported and edited with Gimp today.
IT Guy: It's a really awesome graphics program actually.
IT Guy: So far, I've found there is nothing I can't do with this OS that I was doing with Mac or Windows.
Joe Wilcox: And it handles your Nikon RAW files?
IT Guy: Very well.
IT Guy: Actually found a nikon driver for the camera that imports them directly to Gimp and then wants to know if I want to convert them to a different format.
Joe Wilcox: Would you recommend Windows 7 Ultimate to friends? Would you recommend Ubuntu to friends?
IT Guy: hmmm.
IT Guy: Yes to Ubuntu.
Joe Wilcox: And WIndows 7 Ultimate?
IT Guy: I don't think right now I'd recommend Windows. I mean Ubuntu is free, and you can do everything with it that you can do with Windows, so do the math!
IT Guy: Also, Linux tends to keep your skills honed. Windows seems to not want the end user to have any smarts!
Joe Wilcox: Skills honed how?
IT Guy: You can do a lot from the terminal. Learn basic commands to run in the terminal to maintain the overall health of the computer...
IT Guy: Stuff that harkens back to the Unix console days.
Joe Wilcox: Windows has a sophisticated command line feature.
IT Guy: It definitely does.
Joe Wilcox: But you prefer the Unix/Linux terminal?
IT Guy: Unless you know more or can do more than the basic old dos commands it is really limited compared to the console in Linux.
IT Guy: Especially compared to Unix...
IT Guy: So yes I prefer the Unix/Linux command line over Windows.
Joe Wilcox: And how many years have you used Windows?
IT Guy: Holy *^#*. since ver 1.0.

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Windows 7 - Linux - Operating system - Joe Wilcox - Microsoft Windows


I had closed of the updates in w7 to save some room on a crowded hard drive untill i can shift over a lot of programs to another drive.

w7 has a nasty trick it closes down a lot of their program and shows a registered copy is a pirate copy ... in system the numbers are removed so re validation is not possible

there is no instructions w7 give to get this back in operation again . so anyone else would be in the same boat and they would complain to the shop where they purchased it from. but being told its impossible and no one knows of this problem or solution
and they suggest at a cost of $100 per hour they will take the computer to their workshops.

Now I will show everyone how to overcome this stupid situation

1 first open the updates again and download the latest files, yes w7 will let you as they still have your original registration to compair it with.

2 install and reboot
3 go to system and the numbers are back again and you can re-activate and again , all is well. the program runs as a original once more.

Ok I realise this will knock out many pirate copies and just so but what a underhanded way of doing it , the amount of trouble this is going to cause honest people is to high a price to pay in my opinion.

I found this way out just by trial and error

I have an Acer Aspire M5700 desktop purchased in late 2009. Onboard Intel 82567-V2 Gigabit Ethernet Controller. Originally came with Vista and upgraded to Win7 through Acer's free upgrade program. All features of the system were operating without noticeable issues until a few months ago. I put the computer to sleep/hiberate every night. Woke up one morning and noticed there was a blank screen I'd never seen before which simply read that there was a "fatal error" and that the system could not come out of hibernate and instead was rebooting.

Note that pretty much immediately after this the internet stopped working and would state "Default Gateway unavailable" when I diagnosed and was only connecting to an "unknown public network". Everything about the NIC appeared to work: device manager seemed to say everything was running fine, drivers were updated and no hardware issues. Connectivity would always state no gateway connection and I wasn't able to ping anything. I know my ISP was working fine too because I could plug in my laptop to the wired internet and it worked perfectly. There was no router or wireless internet involved.

Also I noticed that since this error, the system took significantly longer to boot up, about 2 minutes as compared to the previous boot time of 30 seconds. The computer would take a good 20 seconds before the monitor would "activate" with the light turning from orange to blue. Also, two new screens showed in the bootup menu that had never appeared before: one saying something about Intel Eaglelake technology with a message saying something like NOT AUTHORIZED TO DISMANTLE/ASSEMBLE and another showing a BIOS menu that was different from the previous BIOS display. After this the normal Acer screen appears that I had been used to seeing on bootup. One other issue that may have relevance. when I went into BIOS, the Onboard LAN was enabled and grayed out with no ability to disable it.

So for months, I tried every software tweak I could think of to no avail. Eventually I cracked and installed a 10/100 PCI ethernet card in an empty PCI slot to test if the Onboard NIC was busted. All I did to install was remove the metal slot covering the PCI expansion bay, unplug the auxilary 4-pin power connector because the wire was in the way, insert the PCI ethernet card, and replug in the 4-pin power connector.

I turn on my PC and immediately it reverts back to the "old" bootup process, the one that took 30 seconds. Win7 does NOT detect my PCI ethernet card but now when I try my onboard LAN, it works perfectly and internet is restored.

So what the heck happened? Clearly there appears to be a correlation between the bootup time/menus displayed and whether my onboard LAN functions properly. Does anyone have any ideas?

First off:

I have ONE hard drive to work with here (not counting the fact that I'm on another computer to type this up)

I can partition/format that hard drive ANY way required.

The hard drive is currently partitioned as such:
40~GB NTFS (partition 1, empty), 7GB NTFS (.isos contained here), 7GB FAT32 (extracted Windows 7 .iso contained here, -identical- to the DVD itself) [has BOOT flag]

I am able to partition the drive via a 1GB USB stick with GParted installed on it.

I do NOT have access to a working DVD burner.

I would like to install Windows 7 on that 40~GB NTFS partition, but can't seem to boot from the 7GB FAT32 partition. I have NO idea what steps would be required to boot from that partition properly. I -do- know that my computer is trying to boot from there, but it has no idea what files to open.

Simply put, I need to figure out a way to get that 7GB FAT32 partition to behave as if it was a DVD-ROM drive.

There is NO operating system installed on the computer in question, so "booting in to Windows" is not an option.

Edit: I should clarify, the boot priorities are set up correctly, and I know exactly how to do that. That's not the problem. Also, I "extracted" the Windows 7 .iso via Daemon Tools.

Edit 2: The message I get goes something like "This is not a bootable disk." "DISK BOOT FAILURE" .. etc.

Update: Re-did most of what I did before.. now I get the error "Remove disks or other media." followed by "DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK TO CONTINUE"

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