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I have a dial-up connection. When I start IE, my modem starts dialing, as it should. But the floppy disk drive in my Dell tries to access a disk even though there isn't one in the drive. Any explanations?

Hi --
My XP64 sp2 keeps trying to access the internal floppy drive, even when there is no floppy disk in it. Every ten seconds the drive light comes on for about three seconds and I can hear the head move.

I replaced the drive, in hopes that that was the problem. Nope, still keeps doing it.

Any help fixing this will be appreciated.
Thank you.
-- Keith

I am now on my second identical hard drive which has
exhibited the same strange behavior:

I am attempting to install a 200GB Seagate hard drive on a
computer running Windows XP SP2, with a P4G8X Deluxe

Windows sees the entire hard drive--all 185 GB of it. If I
attempt to format (NTFS), either through disk management
or by right clicking on the drive, the format plods along
for a couple of hours, reaches 100%...and then reports
that the format could not complete.

If I attempt to access the drive, Windows informs me that
the drive is not formatted (RAW), and asks if I wish to
format it.

As an experiment, I partitioned and formatted the first
100GB of the drive. This worked fine. I then partitioned
and attempted to format the other 85GB. The format failed
at 100%.

If I boot to a seagate floppy and format from there, the
format completes succesfully, and Windows sees the drive
as fully formatted NTFS. HOWEVER, after writing a few
gigabytes of data to test it, I started receiving I/O
Errors trying to read some files. Checkdisk invariably
failed to complete, usually at 100%.

The first time this happened, I assumed the drive was
faulty and returned it for replacement. The replacement is
giving identical results.

I initially tried this all on SP1, which of course has 48-
bit LBA support. I upgraded to SP2 in the hopes that would
fix things, but the upgrade made no difference.

I have swapped ide cables, changed the drive from slave to
master to cable select master/slave and back again, and
swapped ide channels. Nothing changed the behavior of the

My motherboard also supports 48-bit LBA, and has the
newest BIOS. Another older drive substituted in place of
the new one functions correctly. I can only assume that
this computer is having issues formatting above 137GB, and
having mostly eliminated hardware as the culprit, it seems
Windows must be glitching somehow.

Anyone have any ideas?

I've a customer who has the same problem and I've waiting
to see if someone replied to this post for a fix. The
customer had a trojan removed from their PC and then
started receiving the same message whenever they tried to
run a dos program. When I started the machine in safe
mode everything worked fine. Today the PWSteal.Banker.B
trojan was reported by norton's on this computer which I
removed. This trojan was only discovered on June 17 and
is not supposed to affect XP. I decided to try running
command.com and sysedit to see if removing the trojan had
any effect on this problem. Much too my surprise and
relief it did. Hopefully this might help you if you go to
symantec's sight they have the information needed to
remove the virus. The file that the virus creates is
lsd_f3.dll in the system32 folder. Let me know if this

-----Original Message-----
I apologize for the lengthy post.

I'm running win xp pro (system came with win xp, I
upgraded immediately to
win xp pro. This current problem has nothing to do with
the upgrade to win
xp pro, which was done over a year ago) on an e-machine
T2625 AMD Athlon xp
2600+ 2.12GHz, 1GB RAM.
Note: My computer came with the primary partition
(system partition, C:
drive) configured to NTFS. All other partitions that I
have created on that
physical hard drive and on other physical hard drives
are FAT32.

A week ago, I had just finished fully cleaning my system
(a long process)
and then went to play tetris and BAM! A new problem. How
nice. I have a
number of dos programs, including tetris.exe, some old
astronomy dos
software, etc. which have worked fine on win xp pro for
quite some time
until recently (the last week) when they collectively
began to fail with an
"attempt to access invalid address" error. I cannot
ascertain the exact time
at which this problem began since I only use the DOS
programs infrequently.

Information which may be helpful:
The first thing I did was Google search with the
following string: "attempt
to access invalid address" xp dos.
This search brought some (perhaps) useful info, which I
will relay he

"Andrew" on June 02, 2004 said "Todays morning, after
one hour of work I
needed to restart computer becouse I was not able to
disconnect from
internet. There was no activity but it was not
disconnecting. After that I
can't start any DOS program on this computer, any dclick
in icon to program
is giving error: "Attempt to access invalid address".
When I try to run DOS
program from command prompt window I see : "Cannot
execute program". I scan
comp. for viruses - it did not find anything. Any sug.? "

"Bill Mason" on June 08, 2004 said "I currently have a
similar problem to
what you descibed. I found that if I start Windows in
the "safe" mode I can
then access what I need to. This is not a satisfactory
solution for me. I
would greatly appreciate any better cures if you are now
aware of any.
Thanks! "

"Christopher" on June 15, 2004 said "Same symptoms, XP
Pro. User reported a
few xxx popups while downloading NAV2004 just prior to
problem. Checked her
index.dat file and found NO record of browsing anything
but okay sites.
Tried NAV2004, Adaware, Spybot, TrojanHunter, turning
off servies, msconfig,
logged in as Administrator, checked config.nt and
autoexec.nt, nothing
worked. Finally had to use XP system restore and roll
back 3 days. Maybe
something nailed the Environment Variables ? Didn't
think to check those
until after restore. "

"manu (by manu24)" on June 30, 2004 said "same prob.
here with win xp home,
but sometime back i turned off my system restore for
some reason and forget
to turned it on, so now i cannot roll back, so what do
now? any suggestions.
manu "

end of thread

from: http://www.techimo.com/forum/t111831.html
"akinsey " on June 7th, 2004 said " I have a user who is
running XP Home on
a newer HP Pavilion, which had a bad hard drive and was
replaced a week ago
under warranty at Best Buy. She cannot use any DOS
programs under XP, even
using any of the available compatibility modes. HOWEVER,
there was no
problem with ANY DOS programs running under XP prior to
the drive being
1) MS KB searches on DOS Compatibility Problems in XP
point to NTVDM
configuration problems. I.E.:
When you have problems with MS-DOS programs:
Test the NTVDM (Windows Virtual DOS Machine) subsystem:
1. Start / Run / Command.com / OK.
2. If a C:WindowsSystem32Command.com session does NOT
open, the NTVDM is
misconfigured. Check the Config.nt and Autoexec.nt files
in the
%SystemRoot%System32 folder for non-standard entries...

Start-run-command.com (enter) yields the error "attempt
to access invalid
address". (see attachment, error.JPG)
All appear in the windowssystem32 folder. I looked at
the config.nt and
autoexec.nt files and they're pure, exactly as extracted
from the XP cd.

"Paladisious" on July 1st, 2004 said "The exact same
thing is happening to
me in Win XP Home, except I formated my machine, and
since then I've
reinstalled windows and all those lovely classic DOS
games, but that
'invalid adress' error keeps coming up when I try to run

"noseBleeD " on July 1st, 2004 said "I am fairly sure
when it says the
address is invalid, it means it has gone beyond the end
of the memory
registers that are assigned to the program you are
trying to run.
Does this happen in safe mode?
This could be caused by a memory leak.
This could be caused by a bad virus that harmed your
hdd, and ram, or video
ram, or more.
I would verify the above posts like you said concerning
the winXp version
first, then try safe mode and see if problem still exist.
I would then boot into recovery console and run
chkdsk /f command.
I would the test memory with other known good memory and
if good, add more."

end of thread


"fcoen " on June 16, 2004 said "I have recently re-
installed windows 2000
server, but now all the dos programs that used to work
on it give an error:
"attempt to access invalid address". Not only that but
things like the edit
command give the same error. Any suggestions. Thanks. "

"MaddMaxx" on June 16, 2004 said "Did you switch from
FAT32 to NTFS?"

"fcoen " on June 17, 2004 said "yes..."

end of thread


"stevewdindas" on 06/09/2004 said "I have notebook that
has had and repaired
a number of viruses. However, even though it is
reporting clean after
several different scans whenever I try to run most .exe
applications it
reports the error "Attempt to access invalid address".
I have tried the
programme in safe mode and it works. Any suggestions?"

end of thread

"manu (by manu24)" on July 01, 2004 said "Hi, my comp
got hijacked with some
xxx dialer n dl.html file etc and some trojans. i got
rid of those now i m
facing this problem when ever i click some dos
application like my turbo
c++.exe or some other dos application i got this
error"Attempt to access
invalid address". unfortunately some time back i turned
off my system
restore so i m unable to rool back my system. plz help
me, ne suggestion
will br g8tly appreciated. Manu using win xp"

end of thread.

The most useful fact which I gathered from these threads
is that this is a
recent problem (Note the dates of the posts), since I
have tried many other
searches on Google, other search engines, and usenet
groups such as this and
found no other references to this problem. Therefore the
only references to
this problem are recent. This indicates to me that we
are dealing with a
virus, trojan, or malware which has began to show its
effects only in the
last month or so. Further evidence for this being a
recent virus is that
none of the above referenced threads includes any
definite answers or
solutions, just people trying to find answers to
(roughly) the same problem
at (roughly) the same time, indicating (to me) that this
is a new virus or a
new version of an old one.

MY Hijackthis log is clean:
"Logfile of HijackThis v1.97.7
Scan saved at 9:15:56 AM, on 7/2/2004
Platform: Windows XP (WinNT 5.01.2600)
MSIE: Internet Explorer v6.00 (6.00.2600.0000)

Running processes:
C:Program FilesStop-the-Pop-Up Litestopthepop.exe
C:Program FilesAVPersonalAVGNT.EXE
C:Program FilesAVPersonalAVGUARD.EXE
C:Program FilesAVPersonalAVWUPSRV.EXE
C:Program FilesAheadInCDInCDsrv.exe
C:Program FilesCommon FilesMicrosoft
C:Program FilesNorton UtilitiesNPROTECT.EXE
C:Program FilesSpeed Disknopdb.exe
C:Program FilesInternet Exploreriexplore.exe
C:Program FilesOutlook Expressmsimn.exe
C:Program FilesHijackThisHijackThis.exe

R1 - HKCUSoftwareMicrosoftInternet
ExplorerMain,Start Page_bak =
O4 - HKLM..Run: [NvCplDaemon] RUNDLL32.EXE
O4 - HKLM..Run: [NeroCheck] C:WINDOWSsystem32
O4 - HKLM..Run: [sureshotpopupkiller] "C:Program
Litestopthepop.exe" -minimized
O4 - HKLM..Run: [AVGCtrl] C:Program
FilesAVPersonalAVGNT.EXE /min
O4 - HKCU..Run: [NvMediaCenter] RUNDLL32.EXE
O4 - HKCU..Run: [ctfmon.exe] C:WINDOWSSystem32
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Define -
O8 - Extra context menu item: &Search the Web -
O8 - Extra context menu item: E&xport to Microsoft
Excel -
O8 - Extra context menu item: Look Up in &Encyclopedia -
O16 - DPF: {74D05D43-3236-11D4-BDCD-00C04F9A3B61}
(HouseCall Control) -
O16 - DPF: {9A9307A0-7DA4-4DAF-B042-5009F29E09E1}
(ActiveScan Installer
Class) -
O16 - DPF: {A3009861-330C-4E10-822B-39D16EC8829D}
(CRAVOnline Object) -

I have already performed all of the usual tasks
associated with a difficult
1. Ran online panda-antivirus, trend micro, ranta-
antivirus, downloaded and
ran free AVG antivirus, then uninstalled it, and then
downloaded and ran
free AntiVir. Ran all of these again in safe mode except
for AVG free, which
doesn't like winXP safe mode and can't find core driver.
That's nine virus
scans which found nothing (due to the fact that, just
prior to noticing the
current problem, I had just run all of these scans and
more as part of
monthly maintenance).

2. In safe mode, and then again in regular mode, deleted
all files in the
following directories: Temporary Internet Files (for all
users, verifying it
to be empty, verifying that Content.IE5 was either empty
or deleted, for
each user and Admin and 'All usuers' and 'default user'
and localservices
and networkservices); Cookies; Windows/Temp;
Windows/Downloaded program
files (except for those downloaded program files
associated with the online
virus scanners); windows/prefetch; Windows/web;
C:recycler (except for
S-1-5-21-760979014-647424850-2722162428-1005, the actual
recycle bin, which
it won't let me delete); and then ran accessories|system
tools|disk cleanup
on all drives, in both regular and safe mode, deleting
everything which I
could (but everything was empty by then - in, fact,
everything had already
been empty because I had already done all of this just
prior to noticing the

3. Ran SpyBot search and destroy and Ad-Aware in regular
and safe mode.
Already clean.

Some things of note:
1. Since my primary partition (system c: drive) came as
NTFS, I have never
been able to access it directly when in DOS mode or when
booted from a DOS
floppy, since DOS can't recognize NTFS, so recently,
having finally grown
annoyed enough to do something about it, I searched the
net and downloaded
'ntfsdos', a DOS program which acts as a file system
driver for DOS/Windows
and that is able to recognize and mount NTFS drives for
transparent access.
It makes NTFS drives appear indistinguishable from
standard FAT drives,
providing the ability to navigate, view and execute
programs on them from
DOS. It is an older program which was apparently
necessary in the days when
FAt32 windows couldn't recognize NTFS. I mention this
merely for the sake of
completeness, since none of the other people in the
above referenced threads
mentioned this ntfsdos program, which is a relatively
rare program, and it
is unlikely that it would be present on any of their
systems, and therefore
unrelated to the present problem. However, one post
asked if the person had
changed from FAT32 to NTFS, but didn't explain why he
thought this might be
important, and although I didn't change from FAT32 to
NTFS, I just thought
I'd mention that I ran this NTFSDOS program so as to be
able to access NTFS
C: drive from DOS.

2. As suggested in one of the above-mentioned posts, I
ran Command.com, but
got the error "attempt to access invalid address". All
the usual dos
programs and associated files are present in system32
folder, and config.nt
and autoexec.nt appear to be fine.

3. My DOs stuff works fine in safe mode.

4. I don't seem to have the recovery console, or at
least I don't see it
listed when booting.

5. A month ago when last cleaning the system, I turned
off system restore
before running the virus scans, as always, but forgot to
turn it back on, so
if I want to restore windows I'll have to go back at
least a month. I'd
rather avoid that.

Sorry for the long post.
Any help is appreciated.


I'm trying to help a Senior Citizen who was running W98 Ok until his son installed XP. The computer now doesn't access the CD or the Modem.

The Device Manager recognizes the presence of both the CD drive and the modem, and it indicates that they are functioning properly. However, neither one is otherwise recognized by the computer. I can insert a CD then open "My Computer" and it shows the CD drive, but after clicking on it no files appear. Same thing with the modem, i.e. the Device Manager indicates that the modem is installed and working properly, but any program that tries to access the modem indicates that it's not there. It will recognize and permit access to a USB flash memory in the normal way.

Furthermore, when I attempt to install a driver for the CD or the Modem (from within the Device Manager), it cannot find any suitable drivers and it obviiously can't load them from a CD or from the Internet via the modem. So it's really a catch 22 situation.

XP runs OK, and it can run all the programs on the hard disk, so everything looks quite normal except for the CD and Modem. (I haven't even tried the floppy yet)

Any suggestions on where I should start with this? Unfortunately the computer was cobbled together by the son, and I don't have any idea what devices he has in there other than the CD which is a rather standard Sony R/W unit.

I bought an IBM USB floppy disk drive on eBay, as I have some info on diskettes that I wanted to access.
My recently built PC has Win7 x64 on an Asus P8Z68-V/Gen3 motherboard, which is SATA 6 and USB 3 enabled.
Unfortunately it has no IDE connectors or floppy drive connectors, hence my purchase.

When I plugged the drive in, I got the usual installing your hardware message, but it ended in failure - Code 10 in device manager.
I tried finding drivers via Google etc with no luck, then I thought perhaps it's not compatible with USB 3, so I plugged it into a USB 2 port, of which I have several. This time it was successfully installed, and works OK.

I had understood USB 3 was backwards compatible, but it appears not.
I wondered if anyone else has had compatibility problems of this nature, and if any solutions have come to light.


My family's XP workstation running Windows XP workstation with a 75GB hard
drive, and 512MB of RAM running at 1.91 ghz is down. Well the computer boots
but it cannot access the Internet. We live in a rural area and are using
dialup. We usually can connect at about 50K or around there.

Everytime we connect we try and load a webpage we get the "Page cannot be
displayed message." It does this on every website we try to access. I already
called our ISP and they say our settings are fine. What I did to resolve this
problem was the following.

1) Ran Norton Anti Virus and it found 8 viruses which it removed
2) Ran Norton System Works Win Doctor and it fixed many problems
3) Ran Webroot SpySweeper and it found over 3,000 traces of spyware. They
were all cleaned.
4) To the failure of all the problems above I tried a System Restore to a
when the Internet was working which was 2 days ago, but the restore failed and
said that nothintg has been changed since that date. I then tried a restore
a week ago and receieved the same message. Personally I think that the built
in restore system is a joke compared to some third party tools.

Just a note just know as I was composing this message on my Windows CE device.

On the desktop the Norton System works icon in the menu below just vanished I
opened the application and the enable auto protect tab is disabled under the
NAV options. So I enabled it and clicked back and it was disabled aagin. Do
you think this could be part of the problem? Perhaps there is a virus that
only be removed from a boot disk? On this machine we have not created boot
disks. However on my Windows 98 laptop I have createsd floppy disk boot sets
for fixing virus problems that get below the os. Perhaps this should also be
done on this XP station. I am looking and I do not see the option for
boot disks with Norton System Works 2004.



My family's XP workstation running Windows XP workstation with a 75GB hard
drive, and 512MB of RAM running at 1.91 ghz is down. Well the computer boots
but it cannot access the Internet. We live in a rural area and are using
dialup. We usually can connect at about 50K or around there.

Everytime we connect we try and load a webpage we get the "Page cannot be
displayed message." It does this on every website we try to access. I already
called our ISP and they say our settings are fine. What I did to resolve this
problem was the following.

1) Ran Norton Anti Virus and it found 8 viruses which it removed
2) Ran Norton System Works Win Doctor and it fixed many problems
3) Ran Webroot SpySweeper and it found over 3,000 traces of spyware. They
were all cleaned.
4) To the failure of all the problems above I tried a System Restore to a date
when the Internet was working which was 2 days ago, but the restore failed and
said that nothintg has been changed since that date. I then tried a restore to
a week ago and receieved the same message. Personally I think that the built
in restore system is a joke compared to some third party tools.

Just a note just know as I was composing this message on my Windows CE device.
On the desktop the Norton System works icon in the menu below just vanished I
opened the application and the enable auto protect tab is disabled under the
NAV options. So I enabled it and clicked back and it was disabled aagin. Do
you think this could be part of the problem? Perhaps there is a virus that can
only be removed from a boot disk? On this machine we have not created boot
disks. However on my Windows 98 laptop I have createsd floppy disk boot sets
for fixing virus problems that get below the os. Perhaps this should also be
done on this XP station. I am looking and I do not see the option for creating
boot disks with Norton System Works 2004.



When I tried to install win xp on my USB flash drive, it=20
could recognize the partion (NTFS format) which is on the=20
USB flash drive but when I press enter to choose the=20
partition to put win xp on it comes up with the following=20
error message:

NOTE: =20
=B7My computers first boot devise is the USB flash disk.
=B7USB boot enabled
=B7USB flash drive is NTFS formatted =20

"Your computers startup program cannot gain access to the=20
disk containing the partition or free space you chose.=20
Setup cannot install windows XP on this hard disk.

This lack of access doesn't necessarily indicate an error=20
For example, disk attached to a SCSI adaptor that wasn't=20
installed by your computer manufacturer or to a secondary=20
hard disk controller, are typically not visible to the=20
startup program unless special software is used. Contact=20
your computer manufacturer for more information.

On x86 - based computers, this massage may indicate a=20
problem with the COMS drive type settings.
See your disk controller documentation for more=20
information." =20

Do I need to install a third party driver from a floppy=20
disk to make the USB flash drive bootable by pressing F6=20
while the win xp CD is loading? If so where could I=20
download one from?=20

A recent news-handling problem has brought this one back, so I thought
I'd bring it up again.


I have a - non-networked - Windows 95 system, used for testing some
equipment. These tests create log files ON ITS HARD DISC (usually the
desktop, for convenience; they're only 41k files, in threes). As part of
our procedure, these log files have to be stored on our company network;
the procedure we use to do this is to copy them onto a floppy disc on
the '95 machine, carry it the few yards to the networked XP machine
which has a USB floppy drive, and copy the files to the network drive.
lost, so no recovery is necessary. The files are still there on the
desktop (hard drive) of the '95 system.

(Sorry for shouting, but throughout this thread, people have very kindly
spent a lot of time trying to help with recovery, which isn't needed.)

Purely out of perversity, I continue to use the floppy with the bad
sectors; I have other work I can do while waiting (or, if not, I use a
good floppy).

1. 95 machine. After experiencing problems, I rescan the floppy, on the
'95 machine, so that any newly-bad sectors get marked. (I'm curious as
to whether a scan rescans already-marked-as-bad sectors; I think it must
do, as it seems to take longer each time, whereas I wouldn't expect it
to if it was skipping already-marked-as-bad sectors.) While _doing_ this
scan, the '95 machine still lets me do other things, just incredibly
slowly, which puzzles me, though I accept what some people here have
said about low-level drivers and the like. (I don't have - nor the means
to install - any utilities, such as resource meters, that aren't part of
the basic '95 system.)

2. XP machine.
(a) When it is having problems reading the floppy, it goes through this
cycle many times: floppy drive light on and floppy turning; light off
and not turning _for several seconds_. (_What_ is it doing during that
time?) After many such cycles, it reports a problem. Until it does, it
becomes unresponsive in explorer windows, though I can do other things.
(b) If I try to close the explorer window with the X before it has given
up, it usually ignores me. If I close it with task manager, it does
close it, but is obviously upset: it blanks where the taskbar was
(eventually redrawing it), and does various other things which show it
isn't happy, including closing any other explorer windows (such as the
one showing the network drive I was copying the files to), _and these
are really closed and don't come back_, so it's not just an
incredibly-slow-redraw matter.
(c) After such, whether I wait (ages) for the error message or terminate
the process, it seems to have some "memory" that there was something
wrong: attempts to read even an OK floppy often don't work. I find
either closing the explorer window that was looking at drive A:, or
unplugging the USB floppy drive and putting it back (I usually use
another socket), make it read OK again.

(I report these as just curiosities that will probably now never be
solved - that project is coming to an end, so I won't have much
opportunity to investigate further - I think.)

(Read on ...)

In message , Twayne
In ,
J. P. Gilliver (John) typed:
On the XP system, if the read fails, it also seems to
lock up the system. I don't know _what_ it is doing: it
sits there, not even accessing the floppy continuously -
the light comes on for a few seconds, then goes off for a
few seconds, and eventually - sometimes after a minute or
more - comes up with an error message; again, the system
is a little sluggish to do anything else, though nothing
like as much so as the '95 system. But what is really
weird is that it seems to sulk where the floppy is
concerned: once it has decided there is a problem, it
refuses - by going into the
mode - to do _anything_ with the floppy, even delete or
rename a file, _or use a (different, good) floppy.
Sometimes, if I think it has locked up completely, I kill
the process with Task Manager, which works - XP is more
robust that way - but from the way it does it, it is
clearly having a _major_ effect: it usually closes _all_
explorer windows, blanks and eventually redraws the
taskbar, breaks iconoid, redraws the desktop, and so on.
Again, I can't see why doing something as trivial as
accessing a floppy - even if it's dud - should have such
a major effect on the system. (I also think the XP system
is less tolerant of the poor floppy.)
I repeat, I _know_ a good floppy is only pennies, and I
have one: it's just the principle that bugs me, of why
doing such a nominally simple thing should cripple both
systems so much.
(I've included the '98 newsgroup as I thought they might
be interested/have views/answers.)

Everyone who has responded so far has given good information. Taken
together, IMO they give a good picture of what's going on. A bit higher
level explanation might go thusly:

Being magnetic, floppy disks do lost their data over time as short as 6
[All good stuff but not an explanation of why the OSs are behaving as
they are.]
There are DOS programs around that are meant to "recover" decaying
floppies. Mine seems to be lost in the archives somewhere; all I see left is

And dud HDs - I forget the name, but we have one that will sit trying to
read a sector for ages; we left it for several days trying to salvage
something from a (I think it was all of 20M!) drive that had come with a
piece of equipment (from a division that was being closed down and
nobody knew where the backups were for this ancient equipment; I am sure
there would originally have been such).

the WordStar to Word converter, meaning several others are hiding away from
me too.
The "recover floppy" program did a lot better and more efficient job than
anything you could do manually and was often surpsingly effectively. I guess
Google would be the best way to find it now.

As I've explained, the data isn't lost (it's still on the machine it's
being copied from); I'm just curious as to why the OSs (if anything,
particularly the XP one; I accept a slowdown for the '95 one, at least
that's sort of understandable) are behaving as they do.

As for locking up the sy

(Not sure what happened there.)
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I'm not sure if this is hardware or software. My college daughter has had a strange problem--if she takes a floppy that was "created" on another pc and tries to open it on her pc, she sometimes gets an "Unable to access...." error. When she takes the disk back to the original pc and tries to open, she gets a "Not formatted, do you want to format now" message, as if the disk has been changed. I have taken disks from my pc to hers, and they worked fine. This is intermittent. She also gets a "Cyclic redundancy" error.
Daughter and her roommate have been switching the floppy back and forth with no problem. Then suddenly, the Unable to access error popped up. Then, when she tried the disk on the original pc, she got the Disk not formatted, do you want to format it message. Naturally, the disk had the only copy of the roommate's project; it seems she didn't think it was necessary to save to the HDD.
This happened once last year when the drive was brand new, and had not happened since. I guess I'll go over and swap out the drive. I have a cleaning disk, but it might be best in this case to just replace.
Just found MSKB article Q247858...CRC Error on FAT Media Causes Kernel Stack Overflow. Applies to Win NT.Hmmmm.
Anyone have insight/experience?

I have an ongoing problem with my floppy drive.
I can see it in My Computer, but when I try and access a disk I am informed that it is not formatted, which I know it is.
Sometimes I can format within My Computer and other times I need to shell to DOS to do it.
Most times if I leave a disk in the drive when Windows starts up I can then mostly access floppy disks.
I've tried the 'unformatted' disks on other PC's which have no issue in displaying the contents.
I have also replaced the floppy drive with a new one, to no avail.
I have looked at what System Information reports:
Start Mode = Manual; Started = Yes; State = Running; Status= OK; Error Control = Normal; Accept Pause = No; Accept Stop = Yes
I have uninstalled/reinstalled the driver numerous times.
How do I get it to work everytime?
Any suggestions gratefully accepted.
TIA Michael

My daughter works for a non-profit organization that has some old servers they would like to give away or dispose of but they want to clean off the hard drives before releasing them. I volunteered to try to do the cleanup. I've been a computer programmer and user for many years but I don't really know anything about servers!

The first server is a Dell PowerEdge 2600 running Windows Server 2003. It will boot up to the login screen OK but I don't know the login ID or password. It has a floppy drive (A and I have an old boot disk so I tried that and it does boot up on the floppy but I couldn't get it to recognize any drive letters other than A: and B: and B: appears to also be removable disc drive if it exists at all. This old boot disk contains a System Analyser utility and it tells me that there is a NTFS hard drive.

I had hoped to be able to create a boot floppy with a disk wiping program on it and use that to wipe the disk. I don't currently have any way to create a floppy (!) on my modern laptop but I'll look for a way if it is somewhat likely to be successful.

If I do create a boot floppy with the desired program on it do you think I will be able to access the hard drive and write to it under these conditions?

Any suggestions on how to proceed will be greatly appreciated.


A blast from the past question! I'm not sure this is the correct forum or even if you can help, given this is truly a MS Office lounge, but ... here goes.

I'm trying to access from floppy disks program files created in 1997. Thanks to earlier lounge help, I now have an external floppy drive, but I'd forgotten we used WordPerfect's office suite of programs then. The .doc files open in Word well enough to work with (text intact; formatting not), but I can't open the overheads created with what used to be called Draw, but had a different name by 1997. PowerPoint 2007 won't do it. Its help suggested checking the files in Windows Explorer to see if another program was suggested, but nothing was.

Can anyone help me with this one? Or suggest where I can go for help. We have dozens of "overhead masters" we need to convert to PowerPoint and being able to access them instead of retyping them would save hours!

Many thanks for any suggestions or advice you can offer - as always!



At least one of our new Dell Computers with XP Pro does something very peculiar and annoying. When you click on the Office Toolbar to start a new document it immediately tries to access the floppy drive which makes a rather loud and annoying noise since there's no disk in the drive. What can it possibly be looking for and why does it do that, any clues? Now, we are using Microsoft Office Professional 97 which was designed for Windows 95 or 98 but otherwise it was working ok.

Here is what I'm trying to do, basically just save the current db to the a: drive so that it can be carried around to different pcs:

Sub saveUpdateFile()
On Error GoTo HandleError
Dim strSaveLocation As String
Dim strTemp As String
Dim db As Database

strSaveLocation = InputBox("Please enter the letter of the drive where you wish to save the update file:", _
"Save Update File", "A:")
If Right(strSaveLocation, 1) "" Then
strSaveLocation = strSaveLocation & ""
End If

If Mid$(strSaveLocation, 2, 1) ":" Then
strTemp = Left$(strSaveLocation, 1) & ":"
strSaveLocation = Right$(strSaveLocation, Len(strSaveLocation) - 1)
strSaveLocation = strTemp & strSaveLocation
End If

Set db = CurrentDb()

FileCopy db.Name, strSaveLocation & "UserUpdate.mdb"

Exit Sub
Select Case Err.Number
Case Else
MsgBox Err.Number & " " & Err.Description, , "Save File Error"
End Select

End Sub

The problem with this code is that it generates Error 70, permission denied, when trying to copy the current database to a floppy.

Normally, I would just move on & try something else, but what confuses me is that the following code DOES work properly. And if this code works, why won't the above?

With objOutlookMsg
Set objOutlookAttach = .Attachments.Add(db.Name)
.Subject = strSubject
.Body = strBody
For Each objOutlookRecip In .Recipients
End With

Note that to attach the current db to an email, all I have to do is reference it by it's full name (path & name). So if I can attach it to an email, does anyone know why I'm unable to copy the exact same db to a disk? Does it have something to do with the file being open, and if so, why would it work to copy it as an attachment but not copy it as a file?

Thanks in advance for your help,

Cecilia :-)

I have formatted and copied windows 7 to my 4GB USB key and I have installed a new HDD into my Dell Optiplex 745. When I boot up the computer I am notified with:

PXE-E61: Media test failure, check cable
PXE-M0F: Existing Broadcom PXE ROM

I have searched and found out that this can be caused by a bad hdd but this can't be the case seeing that I literally opened it new from it's packaging and instantly installed it. Also I heard that in order to install via USB you need to place USB to #1 in boot sequence. I have tried this but when I do this all I get is a screen with a flashing underscore at the top of the screen and I can't do anything. So I changed my boot sequence back to the way it was:

1. Onboard or USB Floppy Drive (not present)
2. Onboard or USB CD-ROM Drive
3. Onboard SATA Hard Drive
4. Onboard Network Controller
5. USB Device

I have no backup disk and I have no access to a Windows 7 DVD, all I have is it on USB.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

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John typed:

Please tell me how to start my computer in MS-DOS mode. I
am running Windows XP, and if I hit F8 during startup, it
doesn't give the option to run in MS-DOS mode (like Win
98 did).

There is no MS-DOS in Windows XP, and, short of booting from a
diskette, there's no way to do that.

Although you may see that as a disadvantage, the lack of MS-DOS
is one of the main reasons for XP's greatly improved stability
over Windows 98.

I did try creating a startup floppy disk, and booting
from the A: drive. This solution worked on one computer -
I was able to change to C: drive and run the program I

That computer's C: Drive was FAT32.

However, on another computer, I was not able to
change drives. Instead I got the error message "Invalid
Drive Specification".

That computer's drive was NTFS, and MS-DOS can't see an NTFS

Ultimately, what I am trying to accomplish is to re-
install Windows 98 (overwrite Windows XP), which is in a
C:CABS directory. It won't let me run the setup program
in a 'Command.com' window within Windows XP. It tells me
to restart my computer in MS-DOS mode.

To access the drive from a diskette boot, you would need to
convert the drive to FAT32. Unfortunately that requires a
third-party program. It would probably be easier, and maybe even
cheaper, to just buy a used copy of Windows 98 on eBay, FDISK and
partition the drive as FAT32, and install 98.

But why do you want to go back to Windows 98? In my view that
would be a great step backard. If you're having problems with
Windows XP, describe them here. It's likely that someone here can
help you and you won't need to go to 98.

Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
Please reply to the newsgroup

Because of reliability problems and problems getting Windows 98 to boot
reliably, I upgraded to Windows XP which everyone said would get rid of
the reliability problems about 2 months ago. I also ran a full virus
check and optimized the drive at that time.

The first boot after installing it hung, but every other boots since
then have worked fine until a few days ago. Then I did a cold boot and
it hung on a black screen. I rebooted again, and selected normal boot
and it booted fine.

Well I tried to reboot this morning with a warm reboot, and it hung with
a black screen. It was hanging within the first second of starting
drive access. I selected normal boot several times, but it hung every
time. I then tried booting to safe mode, and it hung after display the
iomdisk.sys load. I tried this numberous times with the same result.
Since that was an iomega driver, I unplugged my iomega CD rom R/W drive,
and it booted into safe mode. So I did a warm boot and it was back to
not booting again, and it was still hanging at the iomdisk.sys command
(or just following it). I eventually got it to boot into safe mode by
repeated attempts, and renamed the iomdisk.sys to iomdisk.bak. Well, it
still would not boot into safe or normal mode, but was now stopping on
agp440.sys. Many attempts with the iomega drive connected and not
connected and I was not able to boot for the next hour.

I then put in Norton CD disk and started it looking for a virus. After
about an hour of this and it finding nothing, my son came over with a
floppy XP boot disk. I broke out of the batch file it was running and
renamed the iomdisk.bak back to iomdisk.sys. He entered ctl-alt-del to
get out of the norton and then it booted up fine in normal mode with the
iomega drive connected.

I am afraid to reboot again, but plan on working on this this weekend.
I need some advice since once I try to reboot and it refuses, I will not
be able to get on the net again, my other computer does not work either,
it says keyboard missing, press F3 to continue!

I am running a compaq with 128 Meg of memory. I have Norton antivirus
installed. I have installed NO software or drivers that would account
for it suddenly not working, plus it still will not boot if I select the
last known good configuration.

Someone suggested that I rn scandisk, but I get a file not found when I
try that from dos.

Any advise would be greatly appreciated.



I have the Unmountable_Boot_Volume error, but cannot get to the recovery
console to fix it. The problem is that I boot from my XP CD, and get a window
that says "Windows Setup" at the very top, and automatically begins loading
files shown at the very bottom. The space in between is always blank without
prompts. I've held "r" down during the entire process -- nothing. I've held
F10 down -- nothing. It just finishes loading the files, and displays the
error. I've created a 6-floppy XP Boot disk -- I get a "NTKRNLMP.exe error 7"
that I can't bypass with F8. Really, all I want to do is reformat, which I
can't do either since XP requires the CD menu to reformat/reinstall/etc. I've
managed to reinstall Windows, but it's worthlessly slow now. I've gotten to
the safe mode command prompt to try "format c:" and have gone through the
steps only to find that because I'm in safe mode, I'm using the drive I want
to format -- error!

At this point, I don't give a lick about the files on my computer. I just
need a way to reformat and get my computer working so I can get back to work!
Please please please ask any and all questions you like; I will answer them
all. Please give any ideas you can; I'll try them all. Keep in mind, I *can*
access Windows, it's just slow. Thank you all very much for your time and,
hopefully, help .

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