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I've got this MAD pagination problem that's driving me MAD!
See the attached doc.
When I open it, it's three pages. The third page is a single row, single column table (basically a box that needs to stay together).
If I open a header (say dbl click on the page 1 header, or choose the View, Header and Footer menu, then close the header without touching anything, the text on the third page now floats on up to page 2, and the document becomes just 2 pages!
The third page text must only just not-fit on page 2. It looks like editing a header, without even changing it, causes Word to drop the header completely if there's nothing there, causing a repagination. (If you have a different printer to me with different printable margins, then the doc might not start as 3 pages. Adjust it in the body text before trying to just three pages first.)
Any ideas most welcome!

I'm writing up a report. In the appendix, I want to show a tally sheet I created. I'd like this tally sheet to look just like the orginal, only smaller. Every method I've tried hasn't worked in that I don't get the tally sheet's header and footer. I'm sure there's a way, but my brain just isn't clicking in.

Thanks in advance!

Hi. I'm being asked to create a template with unusual page numbering (at least for this company). The page number is the chapter, a dash, and then the number of the page within the chapter. In other words, the pages of chapter 3 will be numbered 3-1, 3-2, 3-3 etc. In addtion to this page number in the footer, the chapter number must also print in the header. I can get the -1, -2, -3 etc. part fine, but getting the chapter numbers correct is killing me.

It would be simple enough to type them in straight, but they need to automatically renumber if chapters are moved, added or deleted. The SECNUM field won't work because there are actually three section breaks before the section that needs to be numbered chapter 1, so the field numbers it chapter 4. And most of the numbering fields don't seem to work in headers or footers.

Finally, The section number does not appear in the body, just in the header and footer, so there is no way to use a bookmark to refer to it elsewhere, or a field that looks for a particular style.

I would be perfectly happy if someone would tell me that it's just not doable, and I could pass that on. Thanks a lot for your time.

Edited by HansV to provide link to MSKB article

We use an application which creates documents in RTF format, which we then convert to PDF using Adobe Elements. Very often I have to watermark these documents DRAFT before creating the PDF.
Looking at earlier threads lead to to Microsoft Knowledge Base Article 211324, but the procedure there does not work on the type of documents created - I suspect this is because the headers and footers on each page are different, so Same as Previous is switched off.
Currently I get around this by pasting the WordArt object to every single page and then positioning it - is there a better and more efficient way of doing this?



Hello Word Gurus,

I wonder if you can help me with the problems I am having with Footnotes in a very large document (360 pages). I am finding that the footnotes are being continued onto another page when there appears to be plenty of room on the current page. Sometimes a single footnote may be split between 3 pages and there is only one line of the footnote at the bottom of each page. I have tried all of the following to see if I can fix the problem but I am afraid I have had no luck:
I have tried to:
1. Delete and Re-create the footnotes.
2. Checked the style
3. Checked any possible paragraph/character formatting that may be playing havoc.

At times it appears that an extra paragraph marker has been placed after the footnote continuation line. However I haven't found a way of deleting this marker. I have looked in the Header and Footers layer where the para marker appears in black - but there is no way of deleting this character. I have also looked at the style for the footnote continuation character, and can't do anything there either.

The only way that I have been able to work around the problem is to insert a page break before the last line on a page and this usually fixes the split footnotes - but not always.

Looking forward to a response.



I have a program that has associated with it some 200 word templates. (It is as an aside the worst program I have ever come across but for other reasons) On a regular basis these need a global update to the header, footer, styles. To change them individually requires hours of work. Is it possible to create a 'reference template' that could be uploaded? Or can the header and footer be created as files to which the 200 templates can upload each time a document is to be created e.g. a png or similar graphic file and use normal.dot as the base for all styles? If it helps I can attach a typical word .dot

I am currently running Windows 2000 and WORD 2000 on my pc. Last week, when I printed documents, the horizontal line in the header and footer printed properly. Now, in Print Preview, and when I send the doc to the printer, the horizontal line in the header and footer does not appear. The anchor graphic appears when I select the line as well. Also, I have a couple of graphics that also appear with the anchor, and they do not print with the page either.

Any thoughts?


There seems to be a non-trivial design flaw in Word 2000. When using mirror margins and different odd/even pages, Word adds a gutter to alternate sides to allow for binding. That works fine in portrait. In landscape, I would think it should lower and raise the page similarly, and so it does, but there is a catch. The gutter is added to the inner and outer margins while the header and footer placing is unchanged! Am I dreaming or has anyone else noticed this or found a way of fixing it?

In my desire to be brief, I apparently did not explain the problem well.

I make two-sided documents. Sometimes I have long, wide tables extending several pages that require switching to landscape layout in the middle of a document and back again. I use different first, even and odd Headers and different odd/even footers and gutters. The problem is that the gutter in the landscape layout is not added between paper edge and the header/footer, but rather added to the inside/outside margins while the headers and footers stay put.

Hello all,

An user here has a document that was created in Word 2000 and opened for editing in Word 97 but the menu options for Header and footer or inserting pagenumbers are gone from the menu. (I also changed the compatibility to Word 97, but no difference)
When copying the tekst to a new document the menu's are correct.

What is happening here?

I have this odd problem. I have this document created in Word and inside this document I have a large table. Up until today when I changed the page size from Legal to Letter it was fine. I changed the page layout and now the document is messed up bad. I have this huge header and footer that takes up the whole page and there is nothing in it and my table is showing that (keep text together and keep paragraphs together is on) but it isn't on. I have attahced the document.

I wonder if someone can help me.

I am creating a word document template to speed up the formatting of the manuals we have to write. The template includes a form that prompts the user to add add the manual title, chapter number and chapter name. This data is then placed into the correct location on the document header and footer using bookmarks. The VBA code used to do this has worked successfully on all other templates.

The problem I have encountered is as follows:

The first page of the chapter has the chapter number and name set in a large font size in the header (section 1), on subsequent pages it is set much smaller in the header (section 2). This works perfectly until I start writing, as soon as the chapter contents stretch to page two (section 2) the perfectly formatted small text of the header in page two switches to the large text of page one (section 1) which is not what I want. This is odd as I have not set the header of page two as "Same as Previous".

If anyone has any ideas about how to solve this I would be very pleased to hear from them.


Hi, I have a macro that removes the current header and footer of a document, but i was wondering how i can make this cycle through all headers and footers for the document. I imagine there is a method to ascertain how many headers/footers there are in the Active Document? I would use this number in a loop to cycle through and remove them all.

I know that...


gives the number of tables in the active documents

Does anyone know if there is a similar method / property for headers / footers?

I have a user who needs to create a report template containing the standard corporate blurb required. This way all the consultant has to do is add specific information for that client.

On page two of the report will be:

1. table of contents
2. table of figures
3. table of tables
4. table of appendicies

We created 1,2 and 3 easily enough, (built based on styles) but we are stumped on 4.

The sheets of the various appendices are blank except for the header and footer details. Proper section breaks have been inserted between the appex 1; appex 2; etc. But each appex will not have a separate cover or dividing sheet.

Any suggestions please on create the a 'TOC' for the appendicies? I have not used field codes before.

I have a global template that contains the VBA used by documents based on Std Report.dot.
When a document is created, a number of docvariables are created and used to feed information to the cover page and the headers and footers. One of these variables is called "Title".
What I want to do is create a macro that brings up the Save As dialog box with "Title" as the default document name.
Is that possible please? I have identified the line ActiveDocument.SaveAs but I cannot figure how to use the variable and I am not sure if that would save the document without the user seeing the Save As dialog box, thus enabling them to navigate to the required directory.
Any help appreciated.

I created a document in Word 2000 (with 97 compatibilty options), then saved and printed it from a network with Word 97. I had no problems for several weeks. Graphics printed as they should, in both the footer and body of the document.

I'm no longer at the site. The person who took over the document says that it is fine, that is, the graphics are still there, until he modifies it. When he modifies it, the graphics in the header and footer are dropped, and some, but not all, of the graphics in the body are dropped.

I resent the original document to him, complete with graphics, and the same thing happened again. Fine until he changes it; then graphics start to drop out.

We verified that the document is not in normal view and picture placeholders were not being used. Styles are not updating automatically, either (although that shouldn't make any difference). Graphics are embedded in the document, not linked to it.

I asked him to send the modified document to me, and the graphics didn't reappear on my machine in the modified document. I also noticed that the header and footer sizes had changed.

Any ideas as to what could be causing this? Does this sound like a virus of some type?


I have a report with one group, with a header and footer section that are both printed. I would like to hide the header section of this group (which contains column headings for the detail section) if there are no details printed on the current page. The footer section contains a lot of text and so frequently ends up on a new page with no details. This is fine, but try as I might, I can't stop Access printing the group's header section as well.

The repeat section property for this header has been set to Yes as the detail section often spans more than one page and needs column headings on each page.


It is my understanding that the DocumentChange event fires when "a new document is created, when an existing document is opened, or when another document is made the active document."

I am using WindowsSelectionChange to check to see if my end-users are trying to open the header. If they are I'm closing the header and instead showing them a form from which they can modify header info with. When the form loads I'm pulling in document properties such as keywords, title etc.. When they click ok I'm updating the doc properties, and all the headers and footers. My DocumentChange event is firing 76 times after it leaves the WindowsSelectionChange event! I only have one document open too. Can someone tell me why this is happening?

Can anyone help? I am attempting to identify what type of Header I have in a particular Section, but seem to be going around in circles.

I am analysing each Section individually, then trying to analyse the Header in each Section, depending on the Header option will dictate what I need to do with it. I have tried:

If Activedocument.Section(1).Headers(wdHeaderFooterFi rstPage) Then
If Activedocument.Section(1).Headers(wdHeaderFooterFi rstPage). Exists
If Activedocument.Section(1).Headers(wdHeaderFooterFi rstPage).Index

If I count the Headers in the Section, the value is 3 (which I can only presume is the Header options - wdHeaderFooterFirstPage, wdHeaderFooterPrimary and wdHeaderFooterEvenPages).

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks for any help.

Hello Everyone.

I'm using a custom form with this code below to automatically update all my header and footer info in my documents. For some reason everytime I show the form Word performs a word count
and I'm finding that on our user population it is taking a long time. My machine is rather fast so it never slowed me down much. I've tried to turn off Word Count by: Application.options.pagination = false, but this
sometimes seems to work and most of the time does not.

Anyone have a suggestion?

Thank you,


gofrmHeaderInfo.txtAuthor.Text = _
ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties(wdPropert yAuthor)
gofrmHeaderInfo.txtComments.Text = _
ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties(wdPropert yComments)
gofrmHeaderInfo.txtDrugName.Text = _
ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties(wdPropert ySubject)
If Left(ActiveDocument.AttachedTemplate.Name, 3) = "CTD" Then
strMyTitle = Replace(ActiveDocument.AttachedTemplate.Name, ").dot", "")
strMyTitle = Replace(strMyTitle, "", "", 17)
gofrmHeaderInfo.txtTitle = strMyTitle
gofrmHeaderInfo.txtTitle = ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties(wdPropert yTitle)
End If

If ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties(wdPropert yKeywords).Value "" Then
iStart = InStr(1, ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties(wdPropert yKeywords).Value, ".", 0)
strVersionNo1 = (Trim(Mid(ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties (wdPropertyKeywords).Value, iStart - 2, 2)))
strVersionNo2 = (Trim(Mid(ActiveDocument.BuiltInDocumentProperties (wdPropertyKeywords).Value, iStart, 2)))
strVersionNo2 = Replace(strVersionNo2, ".", "")
gofrmHeaderInfo.txtVersionNo1.Text = strVersionNo1
gofrmHeaderInfo.txtVersionNo2.Text = strVersionNo2
gofrmHeaderInfo.txtVersionNo1.Text = 0
gofrmHeaderInfo.txtVersionNo2.Text = 1
End If

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