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I'm having a major problem with windows not maximizing properly in many of my programs (very likely all programs but I don't want to try any others) I'm running in Win98 SE.

The problem is that the MINIMIZE and MAXIMIZE and RESTROE buttons are not working properly. This has occurred in MS-Excel (from Office XP) and AutoCAD. I have both AutoCAD LT 97 and LT 2002 (for Win XP compatability) on my computer and the problem occurs in both versions.

What I consider "proper" layout is for the window MINIMIZE and MAXIMIZE buttons to be located at the upper right of the screen, just below the program MINIMIZE and MAXIMIZE buttons. Then your working window is filling the screen to the max. size.

What I'm getting is the active window title bar with the MINIMIZE and MAXIMIZE buttons in the work space. If I click on MINIMIZE that works properly. However, if I hit RESTORE or MAXIMIZE, the window only fills the workspace as stated above. Also, it can be draggeg around instead of being fully locked at max. size. Double clicking the title bar works the same as clicking the MAXIMIZE or RESTORE button. So, my windows are never fully getting maximized.

The program ICON button at the top left of the title bar will resolve this problem in Excel by clicking on RESTORE or MAXIMIZE in the pop-up menu. However, that is not the case in AutoCAD where those menu options work erroneously just like the buttons on the top right of the window title bar.

I've uninstalled and reinstalled AutoCAD and that did not fix the problem. I reinstalled Windows and that also did not fix the problem. I also installed the most recent Windows 98 updates.

I have one other program I've seen this problem in. It's an industrial machine tool path program for CNC routers called Enroute. There the windows open fully maximized if I OPEN a file, but not fully maximized if I IMPORT a file. Go figure.

I first found this problem in Excel and thought it was an Excel issue. Once I got it fixed there as described above I found I also had it in the other mentioned programs. We spent a good deal of time trying to figure it out on the Woody's Excel forum and I just simply stumbled on the resolution in the end by trying the menu pop-up RESTORE option at the top left of the window. The general feeling was that the icon buttons at the top right of the window and the program icon button pop-up menu at the top left of the window should do the exact same things. They don't on my machine in Excel, and do in the other programs.

I've searched the Microsoft knowledge base to no avail.

Has anyone ever heard of such a problem?

Thanks,
BH Davis




I spent part of the past week trying to build a WAMP environment on a relative's computer while I was visiting. I couldn't get MySQL to install. I hope to figure out what went wrong before the next time I'm there.

The installation failed in the "installing and starting service" step, with the message "could not start the service." The Event Viewer gave only the message "Faulting application mysqld.exe, version 5.5.16.0, faulting module mysqld.exe, version 5.5.16.0, fault address 0x0023f7a8."

I tried everything I can think of, including uninstall/reinstall, downloading a new copy of the installation file, and shutting down Apache during the install.

What might be wrong? If the problem can't be identified, what else might I try?

The system is WinXP SP3. The MySQL installer is mysql-5.5.16-win32.msi. I'd already installed Apache 2.2.21 and PHP 5.2.17 and confirmed that they work properly.

The options I chose for the installation were:

Setup type: Typical
Configuration: Detailed
Server type: Developer
Database usage: Multifunctional
InnoDB Tablespace settings: 'C:MySQL Datafiles
Connections: Decision Support
Networking: TCP/IP enabled, port number 3306, firewall exception enabled or disabled (I've tried both)
Character set: standard
Windows options: Install as Windows service, service name MySQL, Launch automatically selected
Security options: enabled... remote not selected, anonymous account not selectedNew WinXP installation




I had the following version of Java installed: 1.6.22. There is an update which I try to install but W 7 gives me a notice that the application wasn't installed correctly. When I tried to install with the "recommended settings", nothing happened at all. My fierst step to overcome this was to completely uninstall the installed version which worked alright.
I shut off the laptop and then restarted it, went to Java and downloaded the setup exe, but this resulted in the same issue. the next step was to restore to an earlier point which worked. In the Control Panel the Java icon was back but would not open at all. The next step was to uninstall the above version with Revo Uninstaller. After this restarted and tried again to install and this time it did not work at all. Now, I am without Java. What seems here to be the issue? I have to mention that I upgrade the laptop from VISTA SP2 to Windows 7 already in November 2009. Since then I updated Java about twice without a problem.




Last summer I purchased an ASUS EeeBox EB1501 for use as a media PC. It works very well for the tasks it was intended. ASUS did not provide a Windows 7 Install disk and I would like to be able to totally reinstall Windows should a problem develop. I could try to order a disk from ASUS, but their customer support is spotty at best.

I downloaded a Windows 7 Home Premium 32-bit OS file from Microsoft and made an install disk out of it. I also downloaded all of the drivers for this box from ASUS. My question is: If I need to reinstall Windows on that PC is it possible to use the downloaded version and plug in the serial number that is on the side of my ASUS EB1501? I well understand that every installation of Windows needs it Serial Number or install key, whatever it's called. It seems to me that the above solution should work. I'm just uncertain about the downloaded file from Microsoft.

Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much!

--Bob Harris




Since other threads about Windows Defender are related to specific problems I put this in a new one.

You know, everyone is recommending MS Windows Defender Beta (WD), and I was one of those having problem with non-English OS. So I do look at the news from time to time. After some days last week the Swedish MS site was updated and they did not recommend it at the moment for non-English versions of Windows.

Now I looked at WD download site, it said version 1051, published 2006-02-23, , must be a new one. Headed over to MS Anti-Malware Engineering Team blog, yep an updated version is out.

Windows Defender Beta 2: Updated Version Available
An updated version of Windows Defender Beta 2 is now available from the Microsoft Download Center. This update resolves the two issues described in the below blog post relating to non-English versions of Windows and referenced in KB915087. If you are running on a non-English version of Windows, then we advise that you uninstall the previous installation and install the updated version. If you are running on an English version of Windows, then no action is required.

Also, a new definition update package is now available from Microsoft Update which should resolve the problem described in KB915105. Users with Automatic Updates enabled will be notified of the availability of the release in a manner consistent with their Automatic Updates settings.
If it does not work I will be back!




I installed KB824146 patch on 09/15/03 and today (09/16/03) I let Windowsupdate scan my computer. It recommends to install patch KB824146 again.

I checked windowsupdate's installation history, which says KB824146 was installed successfully.

I then checked c:windowsKB824146.log, which has on every line *FAILED*.

Microsoft's KB824146 scanning tools confirms, that patch KB824146 has not been installed.

My confiration is Windows XP Pro SP1 English on a Compaq Evo D510 CMT P4 2.53 GHz.

[crogram fileskb824146scan]KB824146Scan.exe localhost

Microsoft KB824146 Scanner Version 1.00.0249 for 80x86
Copyright Microsoft Corporation 2003. All rights reserved.

Starting scan (timeout = 5000 ms)

Checking 127.0.0.1
127.0.0.1: patched with KB823980

Scan completed

Statistics:

Patched with KB824146 and KB823980 .... 0
Patched with KB823980 ................. 1
Unpatched ............................. 0
TOTAL HOSTS SCANNED ................... 1

DCOM Disabled ......................... 0
Needs Investigation ................... 0
Connection refused .................... 0
Host unreachable ...................... 0
Other Errors .......................... 0
TOTAL HOSTS SKIPPED ................... 0

TOTAL ADDRESSES SCANNED ............... 1

[crogram fileskb824146scan]




Hope this is the appropriate area.
I have a Web based application that requires a specific version of the SUN Jre (1.4.2) to work correctly, however some of the users have installed/updated to a later version 1.6.7 and hence the application doesn't do what it is supposed to do.
We use AD in our Windows environment and I was wondering if there was a way to limit a specific group of users to not install a later version of the the JRE or if they do have multiple versions installed, to somehow activate 1.4.2 when they run/start the Web application using Internet Explorer rather than defaulting to the latest JRE install.
Can anything be set in Group Policies, or initiate the Web application via a batch file which somehow uses the 'older' JRE, or any other suggestions?

Regards
Zinger




My computer is a Dell Dimension 8300, 2.6GHz processor, running Windows XP Home Edition SP3, and now has 2.3GB RAM, and has (2) 80GB HDD (both partitioned into primary and virtual and all partitions report as "Healthy" in Disk Management). It is completely up to date on MS updates and Secunia PSI reports no insecure programs. I had not run defrag for some time and in the interim have added 2GB of RAM as well as various other applications. For the first time ever, when I went into defrag it reported that "You should defragment this volume". Normally when I go to do a defrag it says that it is not necessary but, if I have not done so for some time, I will do it in any case. I looked at the defrag report and it shows "Total fragmentation" of 12% and "File fragmentation" of 24% (Wow!!!). When I try to defrag it seems to start off OK but when the status at the bottom of the screen shows "(C Defragmenting... 3% Moving File (file name)" it simply stops and there is no (apparent) HDD activity. I have tried running defrag several times, sometimes waiting for several hours, and get the same result . I tried Auslogics defrag and it ran very quickly, less than 1 minute, and reported a gain of only 1% so, obviously that is not working either. I found mention of Power Defragmenter on this site, downloaded and installed it and have run it two or three times. It initially appeared to find and clear a lot of fragmentation but, unfortunately, there does not seem to be any reporting associated with this routine. After running Power Defragmenter I tried the native XP defragmenter again thinking that might have cleared the problem but, strangely, nothing seems to have changed. Right now I am at a loss as to what is going on. There does not seem to be any operating problem as the machine response is OK, not great but not a problem. It seems to me that if there is file fragmentation of 24% there would be a major slowdown but that is not the case. I should mention that I am getting toward the upper limit of free space on this volume but have 18% free space remaining (6.8GB free out of 37.5GB). Nothing that I have read so far would indicate that defrag would not run with this amount of free space but I am wondering if possibly that might be the problem. My 80GB Disk0 is divided about evenly in half into drive C: (primary) and D: (virtual). I did a backup today of C: with Acronis True Image Home 2009 to both my F: hard drive (80GB Disk1) and to an external Buslink drive. I do have Partition Magic installed (old Powerquest version) but hesitate to use it to open up more space on C: since I will invariably screw something up when I muck about with partitions. If anyone here in the Lounge could give me some guidance, or better yet, a solution, I would really appreciate it! I apologize for the length of this post.




I recently purchased a very interesting chess training and analysis program called Chess King. It runs great on my Dell desktop system (Windows 7 Home Premium), but hangs before it has fully initialized on my Lenovo E420 laptop (Windows 7 Home Premium). In talking to the Chess King people, we learn that out of their 500+ installations, there are only three cases of failure to run, and they are all on Lenovo laptops.

When the program starts up, it comes to the place where it begins putting graphics on the screen. First, it places some sort of graphical background on the screen. Then, before it displays all of the fancy graphics, it freezes, and must be closed using Task Manager.

I have tried running it in various compatability modes, but the problem persists. Same in Safe mode. Chess King thinks that Lenovo uses its own special version of Windows 7, but at least one customer rep that I talked to said they use one out of the box. Chess King programmers say they are working on fixing the problem, but my guess is that it's not their highest priority. In the meantime, I am looking for some way to work on fixing this problem. Any suggestions?




I'm working with a Dell Dimension 4600 with Windows XP Pro SP3 installed, and I am having some display issues with it.

First of all, the owner installed an Nvidia graphics card in the computer, which has a VGA and a DVI port on it. After installing the card, the original VGA port on the motherboard no longer works. I've tried different monitors, but none of them recognize it at all.

Second, the graphics card seems to be acting up. The DVI-I port will not work when connected to the DVI-D port on the monitor, even with a DVI-D cable. The VGA port does work, but the monitor seems to keep turning black and then back on every so often. I've checked the connections, and tried different cables, but nothing seems to work. I ensured that I had the latest drivers for the device from the OEM website, and when that didn't work, I even downgraded to older driver versions, but no luck. I'm not sure if the graphics card is a lemon, or if something isn't configured properly in XP to cause these display issues.




I brought a new SSD to use as my replace an old hard drive, which contained my boot drive and a couple of other partitions.

I installed the SSD, built the partition structure I wanted and formated the new drives. I made the first partition PRIMARY and ACTIVE. I then restored an image of my C: drive from the hard disk onto the active partition on the SSD using Acronis True Image 2012.

I shut down the computer, disconnected the old hard drive, then booted into the BIOS and set the boot order so the SSD was the first hard drive.

I then tried to boot. But it didn't work. I get this message:

"DISK BOOT FAILURE, INSERT SYSTEM DISK AND PRESS ENTER"

I inserted my WinXP disk but I don't want to install a new system. So I went to the Recovery Console and did a FIXBOOT and FIXMBR command on the SSD partition that contains the restored Windows version.

Rebooted but get the same message again!

Any ideas on what to do to make the SSD partition bootable Or why the machine is not booting from the SSD?




I've been through several versions of Visio and recently had Visio 2000 installed and working but had problems importing AutoCAD files so I thought I might upgrade(?) to Visio 2000 sp1, the first "Official" Microsoft edition. Wanting to start out with a clean slate I tried to do an uninstall of the current version. Add/Removed couldn't find the uninstall info, probably because it was installed from a network server and even giving it an appropriate CD didn't help. I tried to do the sp1 install anyway. The first part of the install process is supposed to "update" needed system files, restart windows and resume with the install of Visio. After eight restarts I gave up on that route. I downloaded the Microsoft article Q282234 "How to completely removed Visio 2000 from Microsoft Windows" and did the uninstall that way. I removed all the files and registry keys but there were some folders windows would not let me delete (




I was running IE 9 and grew to like it for its speed. I had to do a reinstall of Windows 7 and followed Fred Langa's suggestion for a non-reformat, nodestructive method (WS, Issue 297).

The reinstall, while slow-6+ hours -did successfully eliminate many issues mainly from a failed, partial install of SP1 and retained my settings and programs with one exception (IE9). I -per FLs suggestion-allowed the reinstall to have full internet access to d/l updates. I thought these would install as part of the process. However, there were 94 or so "important" updates and 5 optional ones. The important ones included SP1 and IE 9. After screening out maybe 5-10 or so from Ms Bradley's list in issue 297, I proceeded with the update installs which took 10+ hours with many reboots.
About 20 of the "important" updates failed (SP1 did install) and had to be repeated. All installed except IE 9. Not sure if it is the order MS has it running the updates is a problem.

What is strange is the update install history showed several fails on IE9 but one success. However, when I launch IE, it is version 8.
It does not appear under Control Panel/Programs under installed updates. It does appear as IE9 under the list of Windows feature that can be chose under the same Control Panel setting, but unchecking this, rebooting (more lengthy with messages on changing Windows) does not allow a reinstall of IE9.

I've been "nagged" by the install updates, tried a few more times-(each time the system wants to create a restore point) and tried suggested MS proceedures for problem reinstalls. No go! I downloaded a MS "Fix It" utility aimed at a repair but the recommended milder version didn't work. There is an "aggressive" option which I didn't try.

Are there any suggestions outside of another reinstall of Win 7?




Hi there.

I have Windows 7 installed on my computer. A couple days ago I got hit by the Malware Sirefef.gen!C and I successfully cleaned utilizing McAfee Stingray, Avira and Microsoft Security Essentials. It seems like the Virus was gone and there no problems since for a few days I could log in back to normal.

But I then decided to do a more thorough Scan of my computer utilizing all my Virus tools (McAfee Stingary, Avira and Microsoft Essentials). Just to make sure every nook and cranny of my computer was clean and there wasn't some "inactive" Trojan or viruses sitting on my hard drive just waiting to be excecuted. And basically it was Microsoft Essentials which was recommended after its initial scan it wanted to reboot and then scan again after the reboot to do a complete check. All seemed well and more computer seemed like it was move cclean fast so I thought nothing of it.

When it rebooted is saw this message saying "LOADING WINDOWS" and then a progress bar which I hadn't seen before. And then it jumped to this System Repair screen where it would try to scan for problems. And it wouldn't find anything. It keeps on looping and restarting and going back to that screen.

I tried rebooting in Safe Mode and same problem. I did manage to be able to jump to command prompt and thought maybe the Master Boot record got corrupted or something. And ran the following commands :

bootrec.exe /FixMbr
bootrec.exe /FixBoot

That didn't work either. Then I tried repairing with the Windows 7 DVD in the drive from a copy a bought awhile ago (Although wasn't that wasnt the exact version installed on my computer. Since I purchased it from HP and I don't recall them sending me a Windows 7 disk). That didnt work either.

I'm not so sure if its relevant but when thumbing around in the repair area it seems to refer to windows being in d:windows. And originally my windows directory was c:windows. There was a second partition on my computer when I bought it in drive d: which I never would look at. I'm not so sure if that's a backup partition that HP installed as a fail over partition. Or if just my c: somehow got reallocated to d: accidently.

Any advice on the matter? I don't want to do a complete re-install yet since I feel it could be just a matter of fixing the integrity of a few files. As my suspicion is when I ran the Virus scan some of the files required for login might have accidently gotton put in quaratine or something. And I have allot of programs setup which would take me a month to re-initialize them.

Any help or advice would be appreciated




A few new hard drives may interfere with windows update in Vista. I posted here because I don’t know if this also affects Other versions of Windows. In particular, people trying to use the System Restore (return to the Out of the Box condition), after installing a new system drive, may find the restore not installing correctly. Additionally, Windows Update may not work correctly, and Microsoft Software such as Security Essentials and I. E. Explorer new versions won’t install. This problem is being reported on several forums as people replace failed hard drives, and then try to use the manufacturer’s restore disks or restore from the hidden partition. See this link http://www.vistax64.com/windows-upda...nt-update.html or this one for more info http://forums.toshiba.com/t5/System-Recovery-and-Recovery/After-Restoring-to-New-Hard-Disk-No-Windows-Update-a-Fix/td-p/215710/highlight/false If you have an Intel mother board, you are in luck, as Intel has a downloadable fix. Do the restore, then download the Intel fix http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Deta...ng&iid=dc_rss. . After the Intel patch is installed, hopefully you will be able to proceed as normal.

I also encountered the same problems with a fresh install of Vista x64 with SP2. The Intel patch worked here also.




I reformatted a Dell 8600 and reinstalled Windows XP. I need to get SP3, updated drivers, and a newer version of IE, but the IE6 that's installed now won't work with the MS website, and often crashes when I open it. Windows Update won't work either.

I have a Windows 7 computer, and I tried to get XP SP3 on that so I could install it on the XP computer, but I can't get the individual version of SP3, just the IT version for installing on a network, which the site tells me not to use.

I downloaded the IE8 installer with the Win 7 computer and tried to install it on the XP computer, but it won't install - I get an "entry point" error message.

I'm stuck, and I'm guessing that SP3 is the key, Any suggestions on how to get it?

-Stuart




On a Windows XPPro Sp3 32 bit.

There is no way of getting it to work.

Have noticed it through Outlook 2003. Word 2003 is set as the text editor, but all of a sudden I got an announcement that Word was set as the predetermined text editor but that it will not load as such. When going to "detect and repair", I get the announcement that (I translate from Spanish), that:

"There is no access to the Windows installer. This may be due to Windows Installer not being properly installed. Get in touch with Technical Support for help".

Well, I go to Technet and unload the latest (I think is 4.5) version. Go through all the movements, and no way. Same answer. (but Word works as usual other than inside Outlook)

Plus, of course, this happens with other apps as well -and for instance when trying to upgrade the antivirus (not update, but to upgrade from 2012 to 2013 version), and with, for instance, Tune Up utilities, but not with others.

This is quite frustrating (and handicapping as well).

Any solutions?

Thanks a lot -plus, of course, a happy 2013 to everybody

Marcel




I'm going to be buying a SSD in order to replace my 500GB HDD as my boot/system drive. While I do have a restore disc that I created when I first got my system, I think that rather than installing the disk image onto the SSD, I should just perform a clean install of Windows 7, in order for it to align the drive properly, turn off defrag, etc. I think that I have everything I need, but just to be sure, I'm going to run through the re-installation steps"

1.) Backup up everything, including browser bookmarks, user files, program folders, anything on the desktop, and so forth. A quick question I had about this step was, is there a way I can backup my Windows updates? I know I could conceivably create a slipstream disc of Windows 7, and then use that to perform the installation, but I just wasn't sure if it was more convenient, or easier to simply install updates with a regular install.

2.) Install SSD and configure BIOS for AHCI.

3.) Install Windows 7, and activate it. I'm not sure if I it is necessary immediately after I install, but I thought that the sooner I got it out of the way, the better. Since the topic of Windows activation is always mind-bending (at least for me, anyway) I wanted to ask if I should de-activate my current Windows 7 installation, before I move onto a new install? I don't want to perform a fresh install and have Microsoft invalidate my valid, store bought key.

4.) Get online and install anti-virus and anti-malware software, unless you have a version saved on a backup that you can install. Get all programs updated, if necessary, and set their configurations.

5.) Launch Windows Update and install all Windows updates, starting with SP 1, unless of course I really can backup my updates, and then restore those onto the system.

6.) Install all of the latest drivers for my machine from their respective manufacturer's websites. I mostly ignore the driver updates provided by Windows Update, unless the new version number corresponds with the official website release for the driver in question. Here's a step a lot of people (including myself) often overlook: if you are using a WiFi connection, don't forget to backup the wireless card/USB adapter driver, so that after Windows is installed, you can install the driver from the backup, and get onto the 'net straightaway.

7.) Finally implement all data that was backed up before installation, starting with user files and ending with program files. I did have another question about this step. Since I'm essentially migrating my Windows install from my 500GB drive to the SSD, should I simply leave most of my data on the 500GB, and simply have Windows point my libraries toward the backup, archive drive? If so, how would I do that? Or should I leave my user files on the SSD?

8.) Once everything has been verified to be working properly, install all programs and any games. This can be a tricky part, because if you have commercial applications, you have to remember to deactivate them from your earlier version of Windows, because the programs will consider the fresh Windows to be a new computer. Thankfully, all I have is Rosetta Stone, and I've already deactivated it.

I think that should be everything concerning a fresh installation; but please correct me if I'm wrong about a certain point or if I've missed something! I also do have two extra questions: First, is there anything else that I should be aware of when installing Windows 7 on a SSD? Are there any other settings or changes from within the OS that I should change so as to preserve the SSD for as long as possible? Second, I wanted to ask about my second 500GB drive. To conserve space, I want to remove my old installation of Windows 7 on it, once I'm sure I haven't forgotten anything and that the installation was a success. Once I do that, I want to remove my data on there, wipe the drive, and then reinstate my data back onto it. I think this is the only way I could ever completely remove the Windows 7 installation, because even if I manually removed the files, I still think there would be a few floating around on the drive, not to mention the registry! There isn't another method by which I would remove the OS, without reformatting the drive, correct?




My father-in-law is running Windows XP and recently ran into an issue with Windows Explorer. Whenever he tries to search, the left pane of the Explorer window goes totally blank. If you push the search button a second time, the blank left panel disappears (back to a single panel), but there is no way to search. This happens whether he initiates a search directly from Windows Explorer, or from the Start menu. To get around this, he tried installing Xplorer2 Lite. That reverts to Windows Xplorer so does not work, but apparently the paid version (he is as a trial right now) does work. Ideally he'd like to find what is causing the issue so he doesn't have to buy the paid version of Xplorer2. Any help is much appreciatied!




Getting the key, was a bit of a Detour, but for some weird reason, I went back to the download page and there it was, big as day.

I installed the 32 bit version on a spare HD on my ten year old backup system and it did install ok with all the necessary drivers, even for my Intellinet Wireless (PCI) card. However, the video drivers it came up with leave a lot to be desired.

Then I installed the 64 bit version, again on a spare HD, on my main system and again it installed all the necessary drivers so that all my installed hardware Works.
I finally got to a classic desktop, but then I found no start button, no programs menu, no, no, no!
The script to disable Metro UI did not work. Classic shell installed but does nothing.
Many things that DID work just fine on Win-8/DP, now do not work at all.

For instance, when I arrange the icons on my desktop, the way I want them, the arrangement will not save when I reboot. They are all randomly jammed up against the left side of the screen.
I found the native way to shutdown very cumbersome and leaving a lot to ones imagination. It takes several keystrokes to just get to the shutoff icon.
My own shutdown routine, as an icon on the desktop, from XP, does work and the whole computer is down and dark in less than 8 sec's.

Without a touch screen, which I'm sure not a lot of testers have, yet, the Metro UI is still a mess. Kinda like a bucket of worms.

I finally installed the "City Lights" theme for the desktop and that looks nice, but to quickly get to a program, without a Programs Menu, I wound up going into Windows Explorer, finding the .exe file for the program and sending it to the desktop as a shortcut. That's very cumbersome and way beyond the ability of the average user.

Voila! AVG FREE does install and run normally.
Firefox 10.0.2 installed but has a problem bringing up this forum. Go figure!
I did get to this forum using I.E. (shuddering violently)

So, until some advanced programmer, (hacker) finds a way to turn off the Metro UI, like we did in Win-8/DP, the new Win-8 is kind of a wash.

In it's present form, I'll never run it as my main OS. XP lives on!

Cheers Mates!


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